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big fat london boy  gillingham..(pykey land) 18 Mar 04 10.01am |
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EVERY~THING...I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I AM ENGLISH.. Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 12:07am
Sorry, but which aspect of being English are we supposed to be proud of SE_19?
Edited by big fat london boy (18 Mar 2004 10:02am)
There's never a country in the world with the scent of an ENGLISH rose..... |
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hear hear....what about you Matt_hep? Quote big fat london boy at 18 Mar 2004 10:01am
EVERY~THING...I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I AM ENGLISH.. Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 12:07am
Sorry, but which aspect of being English are we supposed to be proud of SE_19?
Edited by big fat london boy (18 Mar 2004 10:02am)
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| matt_the_eagle Tulse Thrill 18 Mar 04 11.47am |
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I'm taking April 23rd off work and downing pints of London Pride. I'll be celebrating even if no one else is.
I think Keith Murray said it best when he rapped I'm sure you'll agree. |
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| reborn 18 Mar 04 1.33pm |
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knew there was a reason why I liked you matt Quote matt_the_eagle at 18 Mar 2004 11:47am
I'm taking April 23rd off work and downing pints of London Pride. I'll be celebrating even if no one else is.
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 rachel strood in kent 18 Mar 04 1.36pm |
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where is everyone going
Be loud be proud be PALACE!! Come check my profile out at |
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| Matt_Hep Block B 18 Mar 04 1.44pm |
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I don't feel there is anything to be patriotic about. Our history and tradition is completly irrelevant and archaic now. We are just a bizarre country with a mish-mash of cultures, no-one is sure exactly what being English is as we have no identity. The reaction to all of this is an aggressive sense of "English pride", almost to the extent of spiting any other opposing culture just to strive for an identity that doesn't exist.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 Mar 04 2.57pm |
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Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 1:44pm
I don't feel there is anything to be patriotic about. Our history and tradition is completly irrelevant and archaic now. We are just a bizarre country with a mish-mash of cultures, no-one is sure exactly what being English is as we have no identity. The reaction to all of this is an aggressive sense of "English pride", almost to the extent of spiting any other opposing culture just to strive for an identity that doesn't exist. Matt, I think it's rubbish to suggest we can't be patriotic due to a mish-mash of cultures. Other countries manage it, so why can't we? In fact, you will find many "opposing cultures" very patriotic towards England. You only have to look at the many so called "non English" who have been honoured to represent England or GB at sporting events. I'd happily swap all the white English who hate everything to do with our country (the usual middle-class-sheltered-life one) with immigrants who are happy and proud to be here, be English and fly the flag. I also think it's rubbish to forget history because it has had a major impact on how we live today and for the future. It's like saying, why do we support Palace because our history is irrelevant? We support Palace because often it's in our blood, so that's why we should support our country (most of the time, anyway) as we are born here. If you don't like it, you are free to live somewhere else. Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Mar 2004 2:59pm)
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| big fat london boy gillingham..(pykey land) 18 Mar 04 3.24pm |
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WITHOUT TRYING TO GET PERSONAL MATT... Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 1:44pm
I don't feel there is anything to be patriotic about. Our history and tradition is completly irrelevant and archaic now. We are just a bizarre country with a mish-mash of cultures, no-one is sure exactly what being English is as we have no identity. The reaction to all of this is an aggressive sense of "English pride", almost to the extent of spiting any other opposing culture just to strive for an identity that doesn't exist.
There's never a country in the world with the scent of an ENGLISH rose..... |
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| reborn 18 Mar 04 3.49pm |
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You have just confirmed for me what I thought before, you really are a sad act aren't you bongo boy! Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 1:44pm
I don't feel there is anything to be patriotic about. Our history and tradition is completly irrelevant and archaic now. We are just a bizarre country with a mish-mash of cultures, no-one is sure exactly what being English is as we have no identity. The reaction to all of this is an aggressive sense of "English pride", almost to the extent of spiting any other opposing culture just to strive for an identity that doesn't exist.
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| Mr Statto Ifield 18 Mar 04 4.25pm |
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Quote KingsleY at 16 Mar 2004 9:12pm
Ill be celebrating St George's Day..my mums bday too! There's a coincidence - it's my mum's birthday as well
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That's just the ramblings of a madman | Petealiator 1066 Country! 18 Mar 04 5.51pm |
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Quote Matt_Hep at 18 Mar 2004 1:44pm
I don't feel there is anything to be patriotic about. Our history and tradition is completly irrelevant and archaic now. We are just a bizarre country with a mish-mash of cultures, no-one is sure exactly what being English is as we have no identity. f***ing art students! Gawd save us all! How the living f*** can history and tradition be irrelevent? It's shaped everything in the modern world! It's created what we are today, it's moulded who we are today and continues to. Everything in the entire world is born of history and tradition! No identity? You are kidding right? To be English is to be part of the world's richest culture. From this sceptred isle sprang talents as diverse as Orwell and Chaplin, Kipling and Shakespeare, Nelson and Joe Strummer. In every field, in every era, the evidence of English greatness is there for all to see, from the enduring genius of Elgar to the magic of Michael Owen's goal against the Argies. As Ian Dury once sang: "There are jewels in the crown of England's glory, too numerous to mention, but a few." OK, not many of us know more than the first two lines of There'll Always Be An England, but we do know that our country gave the world football, cricket, rugby, tennis, the Beatles and Dickens. As a people we are not given to chest beating. Reserve and restraint are as much English qualities as inventiveness and enterprise. But we do resent the way Englishness is sneered at by the chattering classes. For them, the cross of St George is tainted by memories of empire (even though the Royal Navy smashed the slave trade). It has been like this for decades. More than 50 years ago, George Orwell wrote that "England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their nationality." These s******ing fools don't even know the roots of their own radicalism. For every Francis Drake in English history there was a Wat Tyler. For every Wellington there was a Captain Swing. Military achievement understandably shaped our self image. The stout Yeomen of England have been beating off invaders for centuries. We are strong-willed people, rightly proud of our traditions of free speech and tolerance. Our defining national characteristic is "constructive bloodymindedness" according to Keith Waterhouse, one of the greatest living Englishmen. Illustrated by the phrase "thus far and no further", it is why most of us refuse to take Europe seriously. European? Never. I was born English and I will die English, (unless South London achieves independence). A soggy croissant will never replace egg, bacon and buttered toast. Whether your England is summed up by a bowler hat or a pit helmet, punk rock or Morris dancers, there are few national tapestries as rich as our beloved Albion's. My England is bubble and squeak and foaming pints of Boddingtons. It is Les Dawson and Barbara Windsor, Max Miller and Page Three. My England is pie and mash and Aston Martins, Derby day and Arfur Daley, Mods and Suedeheads, Lennie McLean and Carry On films. My England stretches from Dennis Skinner to Roger Scruton, from Peggy Mount to Beki Bondage. It's Blackpool beach, Charlie Drake, Charlton Athletic FC, roast beef, imperial measurements and vindaloo. It's defiance. Whether it be King Alfred standing up to the Vikings, Colonel H at Goose Green, or the Metric Martyrs giving the finger to Brussels. No-one likes us! We don't care! Garry Bushell. Edited by Petealiator (18 Mar 2004 5:55pm)
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| Petealiator 1066 Country! 18 Mar 04 6.01pm |
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Quote Jimble at 17 Mar 2004 11:23pm
Happy Paddy's day one and all and all and that includes Pete. Tiochfaiadh ar Lar
Our day will also come!
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