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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Nov 18 8.06am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

these are the people you prefer over the EU

Actually no I don't. However unlike the EU commission I can vote to get rid of the shower that currently runs the country. Granted at the moment I do not see an option I prefer but as Mr Wilson said a week is a long time in politics so hopefully a white knight will come along (sorry a multicultural, gender neutral leader that we can all celebrate).

If not I might have to stand myself.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2018 8.07am)

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 15 Nov 18 8.36am

Originally posted by Badger11

Actually no I don't. However unlike the EU commission I can vote to get rid of the shower that currently runs the country. Granted at the moment I do not see an option I prefer but as Mr Wilson said a week is a long time in politics so hopefully a white knight will come along (sorry a multicultural, gender neutral leader that we can all celebrate).

If not I might have to stand myself.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2018 8.07am)

But you can't, that's my point, that's why you have these people in the first place

When you vote at a general election we basically only decide how much sharing of power there is between the 2 main parties, the idea you can just 'vote them out' is complete poppycock

Who votes for public school elites to lead us? No one!

To have more of a truer democracy you wish for we'd need proportional representation and ironically we voted against that!!

 


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Dominic Raab has resigned.

To lose one Brexit Secretary is unfortunate to lose two...

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 18 9.09am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Sorry PP....what was that you were saying about Raab being a Brexiter supporting May?

Like I said, May's Brexit....or non Brexit and Raab's the patsy.

Stick around, you might learn something.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2018 9.10am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 18 9.12am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What are his solutions then?

Reading through some of the details this deal seems as sensible as it was going to get in a lot of areas.


I think his solution is so far away from what this government has negotiated that it represents a 'no deal'.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 18 9.15am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Actually no I don't. However unlike the EU commission I can vote to get rid of the shower that currently runs the country. Granted at the moment I do not see an option I prefer but as Mr Wilson said a week is a long time in politics so hopefully a white knight will come along (sorry a multicultural, gender neutral leader that we can all celebrate).

If not I might have to stand myself.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2018 8.07am)

That is not correct, the EU parliament can dismiss the
EU commission on a vote of no confidence.

A blow for May with that resignation, but really is power with parliament or the PM.

I think the latter.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Nov 18 9.23am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

That is not correct, the EU parliament can dismiss the
EU commission on a vote of no confidence.

A blow for May with that resignation, but really is power with parliament or the PM.

I think the latter.



Is it a bit early for you Steely? He said he can't vote out the commission. That's nothing to do with the parliament....the commission are protected from what the peoples of Europe think of them.

The idea that the lackeys swimming in the gravy train would vote out the commission is about as realistic as you typing something sensible up.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Online Flag SW2 15 Nov 18 9.33am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

The sh*tshow rolls on. I feel like the only sober one at a party where everyone is still fumbling around for another drink when the sun came up long ago.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 18 9.44am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Is it a bit early for you Steely? He said he can't vote out the commission. That's nothing to do with the parliament....the commission are protected from what the peoples of Europe think of them.

The idea that the lackeys swimming in the gravy train would vote out the commission is about as realistic as you typing something sensible up.

'He said he can't vote out the commission'

How amazing, Badger cannot vote out the commission.

A failing of democracy.


 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 15 Nov 18 9.47am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sorry PP....what was that you were saying about Raab being a Brexiter supporting May?

Like I said, May's Brexit....or non Brexit and Raab's the patsy.

Stick around, you might learn something.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2018 9.10am)

I wasn't saying, the facts were saying

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Sorry PP....what was that you were saying about Raab being a Brexiter supporting May?

Like I said, May's Brexit....or non Brexit and Raab's the patsy.

Stick around, you might learn something.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Nov 2018 9.10am)

He's fallen softly. When May falls it will be with a thunderous thud from which she will never recover.

Sure she made mistakes. I have no idea what they were, precisely, but one thing is certain: to take the perfect path is impossible. Near history will vilify her as people with their own nests to line queue up to attack her. Longer history will show a woman who remained in power against all the odds, doggedly fought the media, the opposition, the EU and her own party with few loyal supporters. And yet...

Brexiteers were warned this would happen, that there would be a fudge. And they were warned in plain English. It was attacked as "Project Fear". Thus, is it fair to blame the person who produced the inevitable fudge.

Somebody was on the radio last night. He actually said that the deal is a rotten one; and the fault is putting a remainer in charge who, consequently, prosecuted the task with little enthusiasm and with the view to retaining the parts of the EU she liked. Honestly!

It didn't take long before Brexiteers blamed Remainers for the mess. Not, of course, the leave vote. Or indeed the Herculean task of passing a deal where the UK is in a 1 -v- 27 battle in Europe; where Brexiteers are in a 1 -v- 6 battle in Parliament (and even worse odds in the Lords); where the country itself hovers from bare majority leave to bare majority stay; and where Brexiteers themselves are fiercely divided as to exactly what they want from any deal.

I am confident a deal will be struck. Big money simply won't allow the catastrophic consequences of failure. We will leave the EU. There will be a certain and predictable exit. And matters will eventally settle to a new equilibrium after initial economic hardship. And then someone will write a nice book about Theresa May and the BBC will commission a 6-part sympathetic series about her premiership.

But before all that...

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Nov 18 9.49am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I wholeheartedly oppose the draft agreement with the EU and I post this as a fervent supporter of the Conservative Party who has served on committees,articulated at a CPF and campaigned vigorously in elections both local and general for many years.I have walked the streets in all weathers delivering leaflets,canvassing opinion and played an active part on election days.I have worn my rosette with pride at all times.

My views wholly align with the views of the ERG,Jacob Rees-Mogg,IDS,Boris Johnson,David Davis,Priti Patel,John Redwood etc etc.Yes I am a fervent hard brexiteer.

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