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deleted user  28 Mar 19 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So May's deal comes back but she has already shot herself in the foot with this splitting out the political declaration nonsense. So after tomorrow will she FINALLY either resign immediately or admit her deal is as popular as Wayne Hennessey at a march for Israel and consign it to the scrap heap? As parliament will not allow a no deal, we then face only a few outcomes. Most likely is a general election, but that may not solve a single thing when it comes to brexs***. If Labour get in though they might just command a majority for their customs union option. If the tories get it then look out for a long extension to piss around for another year or so and get nowhere. Under tory leadership limping in at third is another public vote on brexit, and all you brexit fans better hope that never happens as you have a pretty good chance of losing this time around. If labour wins, the second vote is a lot closer, if there is an election. It's the absurdity of leaving it this late in the day to make decisions that gets me. Regardless of the end result, it just makes our politicians look like buffoons. It's staggering that three years after the vote we're no further forward on anything. If May hadn't chanced her arm with the previous general election it wouldn't have been as hard to get a plan through. It's a coin toss outcome now. Edited by dollardays (28 Mar 2019 9.17pm)
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 Spiderman Horsham 28 Mar 19 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Crikey if you dont think the last year, or even the last 3 have been utterly torturous then you must be a very patient individual, or not follow the news much. Yes indeed it has been torturous and still is. The reason for my comment is that a number of times over this thread, Pussay Patrol has stated that any such comments should be backed up by true facts (unless of course this only applies to leave supporters)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Mar 19 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So May's deal comes back but she has already shot herself in the foot with this splitting out the political declaration nonsense. So after tomorrow will she FINALLY either resign immediately or admit her deal is as popular as Wayne Hennessey at a march for Israel and consign it to the scrap heap? As parliament will not allow a no deal, we then face only a few outcomes. Most likely is a general election, but that may not solve a single thing when it comes to brexs***. If Labour get in though they might just command a majority for their customs union option. If the tories get it then look out for a long extension to piss around for another year or so and get nowhere. Under tory leadership limping in at third is another public vote on brexit, and all you brexit fans better hope that never happens as you have a pretty good chance of losing this time around. If labour wins, the second vote is a lot closer, if there is an election. If you’re able to see last night’s BBC Newsnight at the end they had a handful of political journalists give their predictions of events ahead. About 3 of them predicted a general election, but not as close as you think, and probably not for the same reasons or turn of events and within this year rather than the next quarter. On the other hand the fears of a general election could be more amplified for either side so it’s pretty difficult to predict there’ll definitely be one.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Mar 19 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
It's the absurdity of leaving it this late in the day to make decisions that gets me. Regardless of the end result, it just makes our politicians look like buffoons. It's staggering that three years after the vote we're no further forward on anything. If May hadn't chanced her arm with the previous general election it would've been as hard to get a plan through. It's a coin toss outcome now. You obviously meant wouldn’t and not many would disagree. That ‘Strong and Stable’ shambles of a general election and having her as PM in the first place are the 2 biggest errors in the whole process. She’s only good for piles of admin. Any human contact and she’s a disaster. We would’ve been better off with Andrea Leadsome. If only she could’ve kept quiet about May not having children when she can’t, even if AL was right in what she said.
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| Rubin 28 Mar 19 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Presumably an opinion or have you got FACTS to back up this statement? That's the exact reason why they desperately don't want us to leave in a no deal. It will set the ball rolling and the union will crumble. And yes, I do expect things would be difficult initially until trade deals etc. have been agreed. Edited by Rubin (28 Mar 2019 9.03pm)
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| deleted user 28 Mar 19 9.24pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
You obviously meant wouldn’t and not many would disagree. That ‘Strong and Stable’ shambles of a general election and having her as PM in the first place are the 2 biggest errors in the whole process. She’s only good for piles of admin. Any human contact and she’s a disaster. We would’ve been better off with Andrea Leadsome. If only she could’ve kept quiet about May not having children when she can’t, even if AL was right in what she said. Sorry, corrected. Yes, she made a pigs ear of the election. I do think she's kept her calm in a tough situation but as you say she was the wrong person for the job to begin with and consequently it's reached this absurd point. She was never the best person to stand up for UK interests because deep down she was flakey on Brexit anyway. It was a time when a real conviction politician needed to step up, and was pitiful the way anyone of note decided against running. Pure political maneuvering.
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 becky over the moon 28 Mar 19 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So May's deal comes back but she has already shot herself in the foot with this splitting out the political declaration nonsense. So after tomorrow will she FINALLY either resign immediately or admit her deal is as popular as Wayne Hennessey at a march for Israel and consign it to the scrap heap? As parliament will not allow a no deal, we then face only a few outcomes. Most likely is a general election, but that may not solve a single thing when it comes to brexs***. If Labour get in though they might just command a majority for their customs union option. If the tories get it then look out for a long extension to piss around for another year or so and get nowhere. Under tory leadership limping in at third is another public vote on brexit, and all you brexit fans better hope that never happens as you have a pretty good chance of losing this time around. If labour wins, the second vote is a lot closer, if there is an election. Surely, if a General Election is called, then it really would be no deal Brexit? Before this, HM the Queen would have to dissolve the present parliament, meaning that no further business could be transacted. A general election then takes 6 weeks to organise, so this would take us well past the Article 50 extension date, and into a no-deal situation by default.
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Pussay Patrol  28 Mar 19 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
These things are always difficult to prove no doubt others will say that this was already planned by the government so its not extra money... However my main point was that the government never made the promise so it's not fair to criticise them for it. I forgot to add that the Pro Brexit group said the extra NHS money would come from not having to pay the EU. Well we haven't left yet and if we do under Mrs May deal it will be at least 2 years before we stop paying the EU. Edited by Badger11 (28 Mar 2019 6.22pm) But the notion you would take our EU contribution and use that exact amount to fund the NHS is ludicrous and only a total imbecile would buy it. Completely patronising rubbish from Farage just like his racist poster. The amount it will cost us for transition when we leave, the extra tariffs, admin, legalalities, subsidies and loss of income will make our EU contribution look like chicken feed Edited by Pussay Patrol (28 Mar 2019 9.40pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 Mar 19 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
What would also be good is those Brits that have decided to emigrate/take advantage of freedom of movement (can't see the difference) and do nothing but spout off nonsense about Brexit have their citizenship revoked and therefore be rendered stateless unless their adopted country will have them Do you have any idea how much Britain earns in invisible trade. A classic Brexit style comment. Keep killing the goose that lays the golden egg
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Mar 19 9.48pm |
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Originally posted by becky
Surely, if a General Election is called, then it really would be no deal Brexit? Before this, HM the Queen would have to dissolve the present parliament, meaning that no further business could be transacted. A general election then takes 6 weeks to organise, so this would take us well past the Article 50 extension date, and into a no-deal situation by default. Here's hoping Becky. It would be a sensible way out. The EU needs us more than we need them. You only have to look at their stubborness. f*** EM I say
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| .TUX. 28 Mar 19 9.50pm |
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On Wednesday, the European Central Bank added to growth worries when its chief Mario Draghi hinted that interest rates would stay low for longer than previously anticipated, to stimulate growth and inflation. (Not sourced from the BBC)
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 Mar 19 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
That's the exact reason why they desperately don't want us to leave in a no deal. It will set the ball rolling and the union will crumble. And yes, I do expect things would be difficult initially until trade deals etc. have been agreed. Edited by Rubin (28 Mar 2019 9.03pm) Indeed Rubin. The EU is a f***ing Ponzi Scheme. It's a Parasite that produces Sweet FA. It's an unelected Mafiosa.
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