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 matt_himself  Matataland 11 Jun 16 9.44am |
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10 point Brexit lead:
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 10.06am |
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Think the most interesting part of that report is the difference between the two sides in their intention to actually vote.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 16 11.49am |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Big difference though- FIFA was (and is) irredeemable as an organisation. EU isn't perfect, but isn't (yet) rotten to the core. Bit silly to think that we leave, and everyone else throws their hands up and says, 'oh well, UK gone, we'd better pack in the whole thing and start again.' Let's hope if Brexit happens we aren't pleading to be let back in to the club in 5 or 10 years time- something tells me that won't exactly be looked upon kindly by the EU! It is not silly at all. It sometimes takes one party to lead the way. I'm not particular bothered if the EU collapses or not. Sometime in the future, Europe and even the World might be run by one government but the road there is not necessarily an unbroken or straight one. We need to get it right first. Britain is not ready to surrender it's decision making to Brussels and that will surely happen sooner rather than later if we stay now. The EU is not working. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2016 11.50am)
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jun 16 1.49pm |
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 11 Jun 16 2.00pm |
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I'd rather listen to the words of an entrepreneur than a civil servant who has never had to risk his or her own money.
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Attachment: | snytaxx London 11 Jun 16 2.28pm |
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I'm a Brexiteer but I take this poll with a pinch of salt. You have to remember that the government always does better in actual referendums / elections than is polled. I think this will almost be a dead heat. of a referendum coming down to a 4% difference 48% to 52%. I just don't know in who's favour.
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leifandersonshair  Newport 11 Jun 16 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by snytaxx
I'm a Brexiteer but I take this poll with a pinch of salt. You have to remember that the government always does better in actual referendums / elections than is polled. I think this will almost be a dead heat. of a referendum coming down to a 4% difference 48% to 52%. I just don't know in who's favour. Probably right- plenty of people, stood in the ballot box, will be cautious, and vote for the status quo. 'Shy Remainers' maybe, much as there were 'shy Tories' last GE. I'd be astonished if it's anywhere beyond 55-45 one way or the other. May even come down to less than 1% and a few hundred thousand votes. Interesting times. Whatever happens, I hope the winning side is right for their post vote scenarios.
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| snytaxx London 11 Jun 16 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
Probably right- plenty of people, stood in the ballot box, will be cautious, and vote for the status quo. 'Shy Remainers' maybe, much as there were 'shy Tories' last GE. I'd be astonished if it's anywhere beyond 55-45 one way or the other. May even come down to less than 1% and a few hundred thousand votes. Interesting times. Whatever happens, I hope the winning side is right for their post vote scenarios. Good post, but disagree with this. I think some undecided voters will vote for the status quo, but I also think a fair few people are secretly much more eurosceptic than they will let on in public. I think some people in the REMAIN camp, but not the actual campaign itself still think its 'racist' to vote to leave. Although the situation is improving quite a lot as people actually taking the time to look at the debate in detail rather then instantly resort to rhetoric and insults (mostly). At the start of this campaign, while representing my country at a Culture Festival, I was chatting to a passing student (from the UK) for about 5 - 10 minutes. When she asked me about my voting intentions, I said I was for 'Brexit' she looked rather puzzled and asked for clarification as to what this term meant , when I spelled it out for her, she just questioned if I was a 'stupid F***king idiot' and then stomped off. Bizarre exchange really.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 16 3.49pm |
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Originally posted by snytaxx
Good post, but disagree with this. I think some undecided voters will vote for the status quo, but I also think a fair few people are secretly much more eurosceptic than they will let on in public. I think some people in the REMAIN camp, but not the actual campaign itself still think its 'racist' to vote to leave. Although the situation is improving quite a lot as people actually taking the time to look at the debate in detail rather then instantly resort to rhetoric and insults (mostly). At the start of this campaign, while representing my country at a Culture Festival, I was chatting to a passing student (from the UK) for about 5 - 10 minutes. When she asked me about my voting intentions, I said I was for 'Brexit' she looked rather puzzled and asked for clarification as to what this term meant , when I spelled it out for her, she just questioned if I was a 'stupid F***king idiot' and then stomped off. Bizarre exchange really. Students today have a tendency to shut debate down. If she gets her way it'll be less likely she and/or her children will have any joy buying a house anywhere near where she wants. Funny one I heard last week was on BBC. A Welsh early 20's care worker is a remainer. All her family are Leavers. She said she wants to remain so she can go and work abroad because that's how things are going. Aren't things going how she says because we're in Europe? And haven't they been saying that the care work industry relies on immigrants? So why does she need to work abroad if there's a shortage?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 16 5.39pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Students today have a tendency to shut debate down. If she gets her way it'll be less likely she and/or her children will have any joy buying a house anywhere near where she wants. Funny one I heard last week was on BBC. A Welsh early 20's care worker is a remainer. All her family are Leavers. She said she wants to remain so she can go and work abroad because that's how things are going. Aren't things going how she says because we're in Europe? And haven't they been saying that the care work industry relies on immigrants? So why does she need to work abroad if there's a shortage?
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Jun 16 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Do you know any carers?
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| matt_himself Matataland 11 Jun 16 6.07pm |
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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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