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 dannyboy1978  03 May 19 6.55am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
We do accept the result, it isn't about democracy, Brexit will affect our country for generations and we must be sure it is in everyone's best interests, lets' have a confirmatory 2nd vote. Why are leavers so against that idea? cos they know the feeling and mood has changed and people know it's a bad idea now and the vote would go the other way How many times, broken record.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 May 19 7.19am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I'm not against the idea as I think that it's a good one and will break the deadlock in parliament. The items to vote on should be:- 1) Mrs May's proposal
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| dreamwaverider London 03 May 19 7.36am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm not against the idea as I think that it's a good one and will break the deadlock in parliament. The items to vote on should be:- 1) Mrs May's proposal They won’t be able to agree what to vote on
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 19 7.50am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm not against the idea as I think that it's a good one and will break the deadlock in parliament. The items to vote on should be:- 1) Mrs May's proposal We had a binary vote and later we were told we didn't understand what we were voting for. Will introducing an additional option clarify that? How do you count the votes as you are splitting the Leave vote which isn't fair? If you add 1+3 what does that mean? We leave with Mrs May's deal or without a deal? How do they decide? Suppose the default is no deal, Remainers will argue that just because someone voted for Mrs May deal that should not be counted as a vote for No deal and they would have a point. I doubt the Electoral Commission will approve anything other than a binary vote as it will be Gina Miller law suits all around. And if a binary vote what are you voting for: Remain or May deal (but I want to leave without a deal) Leave with May deal or Leave No deal (But I want to Remain) I think the People's vote need to explain to the public exactly what they are asking for and the options on the ballot paper. Someone pass the paracetamol.
Edited by Badger11 (03 May 2019 7.58am)
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| dreamwaverider London 03 May 19 7.54am |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
They won’t be able to agree what to vote on The current political system, the people running it, the politicians and their officers are all a bunch of underpaid incompetent fools. There are far to many of them and the system has seized up. Get shot of the lot of them, they have already destroyed the fabric of the country now they are going for broke by continuing with their broken ways in a bid to break the country.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 19 7.54am |
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Well they are still counting the votes and it's no surprise that the Tories are getting a kicking. The big surprise is how badly Labour have done so far down 81 seats even if they can turn that around with the remaining votes it's still a poor showing. UKIP has also taken a kicking and neither Change UK or The Brexit Party have campaigned.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 May 19 7.55am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We had a binary vote and later we were told we didn't understand what we were voting for. Will introducing an additional option clarify that? How do you count the votes as you are splitting the Leave vote which isn't fair? If you add 1+3 what does that mean? We leave with Mrs May's deal or without a deal? How do they decide? Suppose the default is no deal, Remainers will argue that just because someone voted for Mrs May deal that should not be counted as a vote for No deal and they would have a point. I doubt the Electoral Commission will approve anything other than a binary vote as it will be Gina Miller law suits all around. And if a binary vote what are you voting for: Remain or May deal (but I want to leave without a deal) Leave with May deal or Leave No deal (But I want to Remain) Remain should not be an option as we've already had that vote. If there is a second referendum it should only have options on how to leave and if Remainers don't like it well f*** them
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| Midlands Eagle 03 May 19 7.59am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Well they are still counting the votes and it's no surprise that the Tories are getting a kicking. The big surprise is how badly Labour have done so far down 81 seats even if they can turn that around with the remaining votes it's still a poor showing. UKIP has also taken a kicking and neither Change UK or The Brexit Party have campaigned. I'm not surprised as I didn't vote for the first time ever in the hope that apathy would send a message to both Labour and Conservatives that we aren't happy with their performance and it isn't just the Government that has spent the last three years faffing about but Her Majesty's opposition have done exactly the same. If we have to take part in EU elections I will vote for the Brexit Party as another message to the Government to get on with it and get us out of Europe
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 19 8.00am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Remain should not be an option as we've already had that vote. If there is a second referendum it should only have options on how to leave and if Remainers don't like it well f*** them I just updated my post as I misread yours, my bad. Whilst I agree with your sentiments I don't believe you should hold a referendum where a large number of voters don't have a choice and I suspect the Electoral Commission would reject it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 May 19 8.03am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I'm not surprised as I didn't vote for the first time ever in the hope that apathy would send a message to both Labour and Conservatives that we aren't happy with their performance and it isn't just the Government that has spent the last three years faffing about but Her Majesty's opposition have done exactly the same. If we have to take part in EU elections I will vote for the Brexit Party as another message to the Government to get on with it and get us out of Europe Just waiting to see how my friend got on. She is an independent councillor in Somerset her council is run by independents. It seems that has been a rise in the number of independent candidates across the country local people concerned with not local issues rather than being controlled by the party machine.
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Pussay Patrol  03 May 19 8.34am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I spoke with an imigration officer and she said people coming to abuse the NHS is rife especially Americans. So you'd be in favour of privatising the NHS?
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| dannyboy1978 03 May 19 8.53am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
So you'd be in favour of privatising the NHS? I haven't thought hard about the best alternatives but I think people are blinkered to think it's being run in the best and most efficient way for the British people. Your the first person to moan about us not having access to EU health services if we leave so you should be the first to condom outside EU abuse of the NHS. Brexit came about because of lack of will to do anything about imigration,so don't be surprised when people have enough of the NHS being abused with their tax and ask for change
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