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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jul 19 7.56am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So the unions now want a second vote. Just heard a union member on the radio claim that his union has never asked its members for their views I wonder if the others bothered to.

Labour still seem to be all over the place. If you vote Labour you may get Brexit then again you may get Remain. I suspect most voters would prefer a clear pro Remain or pro Brexit position.

If you can make sense of this good luck.

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One more point

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 09 Jul 19 8.07am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Maybe if you stop posting about football, Hrolf, which you literally seem to know nothing about whatsoever!

I am enjoying watching Dominic Grieve this morning, he is one of a group of 30 or 40 Tory MPs who together with the speaker, and other parties, will never allow a no deal exit of the EU to come to pass.

I wonder if Johnson is so barmy as to call an election, lose massive ground to Farage, just in hope of changing the dynamics in the house enough to be able to pass a no deal exit.

Will he destroy the conservative party willfully, all in the name of the precious Brexit?

Dominic Grieve should be de-selected for this action and previous persistent attempts to block Brexit. This should also apply to any other MP who has sought this route including dear Mr Bercow. To all these idiots contribute to the Brexit process but do not dare block. Democracy has to be followed. Taking no deal off will again weaken our hand and play into the EUís. Roll on Boris!

 


Bring back Brolin

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 09 Jul 19 8.48am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Dominic Grieve should be de-selected for this action and previous persistent attempts to block Brexit. This should also apply to any other MP who has sought this route including dear Mr Bercow. To all these idiots contribute to the Brexit process but do not dare block. Democracy has to be followed. Taking no deal off will again weaken our hand and play into the EUís. Roll on Boris!

Exactly.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Jul 19 9.02am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Exactly.

Beaconsfield voted Remain. The Conservatives campaigned for Remain. So are the ĎConservativeí Ďactivistsí really acting in the best interests of the constituents by threatening deselection if he isnít more enthusiastic about Brexit. And how long have the Ďactivistsí been members?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 09 Jul 19 9.06am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I am still chucking over your little hissy fit from yesterday though, absolute classic.

I know. Some posters make me feel sick too. Never been THAT bad though.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Jul 19 11.36am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Dominic Grieve should be de-selected for this action and previous persistent attempts to block Brexit. This should also apply to any other MP who has sought this route including dear Mr Bercow. To all these idiots contribute to the Brexit process but do not dare block. Democracy has to be followed. Taking no deal off will again weaken our hand and play into the EUís. Roll on Boris!

There is no democratic mandate for no-deal.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Jul 19 11.44am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow


There is no democratic mandate for no-deal.

I'm not so sure as the Brexit Party were the overwhelming winners of the recent EU elections and they are a "no deal" party

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 09 Jul 19 11.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

There is no democratic mandate for no-deal.

There is only a democratic 'mandate' to leave the EU.

The 'no deal' method was few people's first choice over a free trade deal, however it's closer to the leave mandate than remain....which is what our politicians have currently provided us with.

Without our negotiators being serious about a 'no deal' our negotiations are doomed. Once Davies was removed from the fray submission and appeasement seems to have been the policy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jul 2019 11.46am)

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Jul 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I'm not so sure as the Brexit Party were the overwhelming winners of the recent EU elections and they are a "no deal" party

The winners of the recent EU elections were the remain parties polling 56% accurately reflecting the polls.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jul 19 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The winners of the recent EU elections were the remain parties polling 56% accurately reflecting the polls.

In the same way that Labour, Liberals, etc won the last election.

Deluded.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 09 Jul 19 1.04pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

On Seeing today's headline I thought Labour had finally decided to back remain properly - a bit late obiviously, the referendum was years ago, when JC was 7/10 of a remianer.

However, there current policy is still that they are total unclear on what they want.

"Labour is promising to campaign for Remain in a new EU referendum against "no deal or a damaging Tory Brexit".

The shift in stance was signalled by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, as he challenged the next prime minister "to put their deal to the people".

But the statement does not explain what Labour would do if the party won a general election.

Mr Corbyn has faced calls to move policy in a more pro-EU direction from senior members of Labour.

In a letter to members, he said: "Whoever becomes the new prime minister should have the confidence to put their deal, or no deal, back to the people in a public vote.

"In those circumstances, I want to make it clear that Labour would campaign for Remain against either no deal or a Tory deal that does not protect the economy and jobs."

We have a useless government and a worse opposition.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Jul 19 1.10pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

In the same way that Labour, Liberals, etc won the last election.

Deluded.

Itís no more deluded than saying the Brexit partyís relative success in the EU elections is some sort of mandate for a no deal brexit.

 

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