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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Do you mean that with this visa you will be able to enter an EU country and stay for up to 2 years without having to leave?

No I think I said short term visa.

So you will be able to visit the EU multiple times over 2 years before renewing.

I'm not sure they have decided the length of each stay but likely to be 30-90 days.

This could all change depending on negotiations.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

No I think I said short term visa.

So you will be able to visit the EU multiple times over 2 years before renewing.

I'm not sure they have decided the length of each stay but likely to be 30-90 days.

This could all change depending on negotiations.

I will be amazed if we reciprocate and charge for EU-members to enter the UK. But as you've rightly clarified: this is for entry to the EU for holidays, short trips, not for settling and working.

They are welcome to charge us - the mask has truly slipped with the supranational government over there. They do love imposing red tape and needless bureaucracy to interfere and justify their existence. Again, putting up barriers and making it harder to spend money in their fortress.

We must do our best to remain open and welcoming to those that wish to visit.

 

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Originally posted by davenotamonkey

I will be amazed if we reciprocate and charge for EU-members to enter the UK. But as you've rightly clarified: this is for entry to the EU for holidays, short trips, not for settling and working.

They are welcome to charge us - the mask has truly slipped with the supranational government over there. They do love imposing red tape and needless bureaucracy to interfere and justify their existence. Again, putting up barriers and making it harder to spend money in their fortress.

We must do our best to remain open and welcoming to those that wish to visit.

Agreed unless something major changes EU citizens should be allowed to come here visa free for holidays. With the new immigration policy they cannot work or claim so unless the system is abused I see no need for for a visa. If they want to do this to us they should remember that millions of Brits holiday in the EU those are the same people the EU wants to win over.

It seems a little petty but I don't care it's their problem. I am off to Singapore and Indonesia neither require a visa for a 30 day holiday but apparently the beloved EU does.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 8.58pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Indeed. Factorame taught us that.

And if the Commission were merely doing the bidding of the EU "members", why is it subject to lobbying?

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Why can we not see the minutes from the meeting of these lobbyists? Why are they declared "commercial secrets"?

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No matter what weasel words you use to spin it, these people have SOLE authority for initiating legislation, and do NOT need to be instructed by the Council to do so - it can be of their own "initiative".

"Oh, but the UK goverment also gets lobbied LOL! I win the argumentz!"

Except, of course, we have the ability to remove our government and vote (yes! vote!) in a new one.

You are correct. The Commission isn't an undemocratic monster. It is anti-democratic: go take a look at how a failed cronyist nepotistic derided German defence minister rose to power, without even turning up to the sham EU commissioner "debates".

What the point in putting forwards to candidates to vote on when it's all tied up in what Juncker attachingly refers to as "dark secret rooms".

Spare me the pathetic pretense of EU accountability, Wisbech.

The point is that you are firing at the wrong target.

If what you say is true, and I make no comment on that as I haven't checked it, then the buck stops with the Council and the Parliament. It is them who delegate the authority. The Commission cannot act on it's own initiative unless it has been given the responsibility to do so.

The EU is a unique organisation which must have been incredibly difficult to find a way to manage successfully. It obviously isn't perfect but very few things are. The real question is not to identify it's weaknesses and then try to improve them because that's obviously something that always needs to be done. The question is whether we are all better within the EU, warts and all, or outside it.

My answer is just different to yours.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Feb 20 9.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

You certainly haven’t got any humility or grace though have you. If you were chocolate you would eat yourself, then lecture everyone else on it.

And pioneer you may see yourself as. So were some of the worst people in history at the time. You “see it as it is”. At that point you are no different to the fascists, they “see it as it is too”.

I can’t believe you actually think you change anyone’s mind by insulting them about their intelligence.

As I never have any expectation of changing anyone's mind on here I am not going to be disappointed am I? Especially as I don't actually insult anyone's intelligence. I might make the occasional sarcastic remark!

As you don't know me in any way apart from my comments here then deciding I don't have any "humility or grace" is a little bit rich? You will obviously not believe it but in the real world I think I have plenty of both.

My approach on how people should classify themselves is obviously not mainstream and being unusual causes some people to question or even to ridicule it. As I have nothing but a wish to see peace and harmony among us all I think making comparisons with the "worst people in history", and certainly the fascists, is inappropriate.

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Wow this has to be some sort of a record. Politicians memoirs are normally heavily publicised in a newspaper come out and hang around at the bottom of the best sellers list for a few months before heading for the bargain bucket.

However John Bercow never a man to stick with tradition has a new angle skip the bestsellers and go straight for the bucket.

""It came out only three weeks ago, but ex-Speaker John Bercow's memoir, Unspeakable, has slumped to No. 3,565 on Kindle's best-seller list despite aggressive publicity by the diminuitive one.""

It would appear that John's Remainer friends have deserted him such a pity, still there's that cushy EU job to look forward to? Or have they forgotten about him as well.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Feb 20 9.56am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Wow this has to be some sort of a record. Politicians memoirs are normally heavily publicised in a newspaper come out and hang around at the bottom of the best sellers list for a few months before heading for the bargain bucket.

However John Bercow never a man to stick with tradition has a new angle skip the bestsellers and go straight for the bucket.

""It came out only three weeks ago, but ex-Speaker John Bercow's memoir, Unspeakable, has slumped to No. 3,565 on Kindle's best-seller list despite aggressive publicity by the diminuitive one.""

It would appear that John's Remainer friends have deserted him such a pity, still there's that cushy EU job to look forward to? Or have they forgotten about him as well.

So aggressive I was unaware of it. Thanks for alerting me. I will look out for it in the library next time I am there.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 24 Feb 20 12.21pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So aggressive I was unaware of it. Thanks for alerting me. I will look out for it in the library next time I am there.

Rather proves the point. If it weren’t for libraries buying it he’d have made no sales at all.

 

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I entered to EU without non-British / non-EU passport couple of times and i don`t remember suffering because of a long queue. For some occasions it may cause issue for sure (landing off at very busy time with many non-EU visitors)

However, most likely extra questions like `why are you here, where will you stay, when will you be back` may arise from officer desk and there is a huge chance that better return ticket is ready at the pocket.

That`s it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Feb 20 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So aggressive I was unaware of it. Thanks for alerting me. I will look out for it in the library next time I am there.

You will probably have to wait in line I hear it's a rip roaring page turner or maybe not.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So aggressive I was unaware of it. Thanks for alerting me. I will look out for it in the library next time I am there.

No way the library will have it. Nor will they get it. They have important and/or popular books to buy. Not this tosh.

Edited by ASCPFC (24 Feb 2020 1.39pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Feb 20 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

On the topic of political memoirs a publisher cynically explained how they work.

Said politician will have been involved in some controversies over the years assuming they were in government they have not told their version of events.

This is all the papers are interested in and will pay hundreds of thousands depending on the politician.

So the publisher sells the juicy extracts to the Daily Mail etc which is how they make their money. If anyone actually buys the book this is gravy for the publisher as they fully expect it to be in the bargain bucket fairly shortly.

So if no newspaper wants to buy the extracts then the publisher is not interested in publishing the book and I have heard of a number of politicians who this happened to.

I don't know if Bercow's serialised his book in one of the papers if he didn't I doubt he's made much money from it.

 


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