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Originally posted by steeleye20

Really sounds just who I have been looking for all this time ......



Burley or the gay guy?

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 07 Sep 20 8.25am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Could be an interesting week. Lots of sabre rattling going on and chatter this morning about the possibility of talks collapsing possibly by the end of it.

Fingers crossed because I simply do not believe a deal that is good for the UK is possible with the EU for a whole raft of reasons and that a clean break now is for the best but I still don't fully trust Johnson to deliver.

But let's see. Fingers crossed.


Edited by Matov (07 Sep 2020 8.25am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 20 8.58am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Could be an interesting week. Lots of sabre rattling going on and chatter this morning about the possibility of talks collapsing possibly by the end of it.

Fingers crossed because I simply do not believe a deal that is good for the UK is possible with the EU for a whole raft of reasons and that a clean break now is for the best but I still don't fully trust Johnson to deliver.

But let's see. Fingers crossed.


Edited by Matov (07 Sep 2020 8.25am)

Agreed.

I would prefer a deal but not a surrender. I hope that the EU are posturing because if we leave without a deal I think our position will strengthen and the EU may regret not having made concessions.

Fishing is a good example. Our fleet is now so small they cannot fulfil the quota from our waters so there is room for the EU fleets to take that slack up. So what is on offer is a smaller catch for the EU or nothing if it is no deal.

The EU fishermen may complain as much as they like but something is better than nothing.

Before the lockdown Boris was in a strong position but since then he done so many U turns that when he says he will stand firm against the EU I suspect they don't believe him.

And that is the issue if the EU think we will fold they may find out too late that we haven't.

As for Boris the public are watching if you sell us down the river pack your bags.

 


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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 07 Sep 20 10.00am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

We shouldn't have the EU 'taking up the slack'. We should let the fishing stocks grow and replenish themselves and in the meantime let our fishing industry grow. People and business will return to fishing once EU control has gone. We are an island surrounded by water and fish - fishing should be a substantive British industry.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 20 10.19am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

We shouldn't have the EU 'taking up the slack'. We should let the fishing stocks grow and replenish themselves and in the meantime let our fishing industry grow. People and business will return to fishing once EU control has gone. We are an island surrounded by water and fish - fishing should be a substantive British industry.

I agree with that just making the point there is wiggle room. I guess it will take a few years for our fishing industry to rebuild itself so while it is the EU could take up the slack on a sliding scale as our boat numbers goes up theirs come down.

As for quotas I was assuming that they are set at a level to allow the stocks to rebuild but if not then yes we need lower quotas.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 07 Sep 20 12.17pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The UK reneging on the Irish protocol, negotiated by himself, how unsurprising.

As for Mrs May, it was her team that did not sign up to it, not Johnson, he is wriggling on his own deal.

An international treaty, according to Johnson, is a doodle in a margin, about as valid as Hitler's were.

And like his extraordinary catalogue of u-turns, about as long lasting.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

The UK reneging on the Irish protocol, negotiated by himself, how unsurprising.

As for Mrs May, it was her team that did not sign up to it, not Johnson, he is wriggling on his own deal.

An international treaty, according to Johnson, is a doodle in a margin, about as valid as Hitler's were.

And like his extraordinary catalogue of u-turns, about as long lasting.

Oh dear. Didn't the EU read the UK's legal implementation of the Withdrawal Agreement properly, before holding their confirmatory vote?

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They were fully aware of the UK legislation passed to enact the WA. If they didn't like what was in it, perhaps they should have said something at the time?

Why didn't the EU Commission flag this particular Clause and insist it be admended as a precondition for the confirmatory vote on the EU side? The EU control freaks really don't losing control, do they?

I really hope all this isn't for show, and that we really do walk away. Frankly, as far as I can see, any agreement with the EU at this stage is merely opening avenues into continued interference in our governance - with an aim to reducing our competiveness and ability to act as an independent nation. Until they offer (and indeed we reconcile ourselves to) a bare-bones Canadian-style FTA (as was offered before), then we should look elsewhere to spend our huge trade deficit.

Ah, yes. And well done for slipping Hitler in there. You win Godwin's Law this week.

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag dagenham 09 Sep 20 3.17pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

anybody think Farage and his party will gain momentum considering Johnson will be losing support all over the country and I cant see the north going back to labour not to mention essex and parts of kent would never be labour and seem to be disillusioned with the Tories to. I know UKIP and the brexit party were very popular in essex.

 

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Konichiwa!

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Sep 20 10.25am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Konichiwa!

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Now that's what I'm talking about.

Correction, how can this be true I thought trade deals took 7 years?

Edited by Badger11 (11 Sep 2020 10.26am)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Sep 20 11.16am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Try not to get carried away.

It is only replacing what we already had.

The chances of Japanese consumers buying into British are remote, they don't even buy their own stuff if they can help it.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Sep 20 11.29am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Try not to get carried away.

It is only replacing what we already had.

The chances of Japanese consumers buying into British are remote, they don't even buy their own stuff if they can help it.

The one thing trade deals cannot guarantee is what business and the consumers will do. New Zealand signed a trade deal with China and within 6 months had done a level of business the negotiators expected would take 10 years so lets wait and see how successful the deal is.

I hope this is the first of many.

 


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