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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 03 Jul 16 7.00pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


Something I read on Friday. It will be in either that day's The Daily Mail or Guardian. Can't remember which. Think it was ICM.

Edited by Kermit8 (03 Jul 2016 6.44pm)

Well they're normally pretty good at putting sample data on their websites, so maybe it was a different pollster.

 

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Originally posted by chris123

Well they're normally pretty good at putting sample data on their websites, so maybe it was a different pollster.

Here we go:

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Company called Survation. Never heard of 'em

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jul 16 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

Have you been living in a cupboard all your life???
You have to be 18 years old to vote as that is the law. Next you will be saying ANYONE should be able to vote...Get a grip and accept that the we the older generation have more knowledge of life than the young ones. IF the 18 year old members of the public had bothered to register instead as Rudi has said prior to this, spent their time on social media and at Glastonbury then they would have some sort of gripe, but as always they were too tied up in their own little facebook and mobile world they missed the boat and we oldies went out in the rain and put our crosses on the voting sheet and we won the vote ... I suggest you just get on with it and support any measures that assist in us leaving the European state and making our country GREAT again!

Yes, it keeps me safe from evil wizards

Turns out the young people did in fact bother to register and vote, see the Guardian which says:

“After correcting for over-reporting [people always say they vote more than they do], we found that the likely turnout of 18- to 24-year-olds was 70% – just 2.5% below the national average – and 67% for 25- to 29-year-olds.''

Of course, more would have done so had any politician actually communicated with them in the ways they communicate with each other. Or just bothered putting themselves into the shoes of younger people.

You do know that 16 and 17 year olds voted in the last major poll don't you?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 16 7.20pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yes, it keeps me safe from evil wizards

Turns out the young people did in fact bother to register and vote, see the Guardian which says:

“After correcting for over-reporting [people always say they vote more than they do], we found that the likely turnout of 18- to 24-year-olds was 70% – just 2.5% below the national average – and 67% for 25- to 29-year-olds.''

Of course, more would have done so had any politician actually communicated with them in the ways they communicate with each other. Or just bothered putting themselves into the shoes of younger people.

You do know that 16 and 17 year olds voted in the last major poll don't you?

The 'Independent' reports differently.

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 03 Jul 16 7.29pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yes, it keeps me safe from evil wizards

Turns out the young people did in fact bother to register and vote, see the Guardian which says:

“After correcting for over-reporting [people always say they vote more than they do], we found that the likely turnout of 18- to 24-year-olds was 70% – just 2.5% below the national average – and 67% for 25- to 29-year-olds.''

Of course, more would have done so had any politician actually communicated with them in the ways they communicate with each other. Or just bothered putting themselves into the shoes of younger people.

You do know that 16 and 17 year olds voted in the last major poll don't you?

Its not the same as a vote old son, most students have polls all the time and it does not mean a damn thing....Most polls these days are wrong as with the last general election. Your under 18's will just have to wait to get their chance as we all have had to do, mind you that's if they can get off their mobile phones and pads as that's all we see nowadays wherever we go. Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me. And before you say it YES my children and grandchildren are just the same now but thank god they did knuckle down and get an education and a job at the end of it unlike quite a few who are quite happy to sit at home playing on their X boxes and play stations....

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 03 Jul 16 7.36pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Here we go:

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Company called Survation. Never heard of 'em

Nor me!! Always interesting to see who has commissioned these things.

 

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Originally posted by susmik

Its not the same as a vote old son, most students have polls all the time and it does not mean a damn thing....Most polls these days are wrong as with the last general election. Your under 18's will just have to wait to get their chance as we all have had to do, mind you that's if they can get off their mobile phones and pads as that's all we see nowadays wherever we go. Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me. And before you say it YES my children and grandchildren are just the same now but thank god they did knuckle down and get an education and a job at the end of it unlike quite a few who are quite happy to sit at home playing on their X boxes and play stations....

Hmm, OK young dad. I guess there was something different between the Scottish and UK referenda. Can you please enlighten me.

Also please explain your point about the young of today not knuckling down and getting an education in the light of the statistics for the past 10 years. I am sure you know participation in Higher Education has been rising steadily.

Edited by Mapletree (03 Jul 2016 8.25pm)

 

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One was to stay part of the United Kingdom (knowing we had a referendum about the EU) the other was to leave a corrupt federal state.

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 03 Jul 16 8.29pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Hmm, OK young dad. I guess there was something different between the Scottish and UK referenda. Can you please enlighten me.

Also please explain your point about the young of today not knuckling down and getting an education in the light of the statistics for the past 10 years. I am sure you know participation in Higher Education has been rising steadily.

Edited by Mapletree (03 Jul 2016 8.25pm)

I guess if you do not know then you need to start keeping up with world wide news instead of harping on all the time about losing the vote and giving us all excuses and reasons why your side of the vote did not win!

The other point you make...All the higher education has not given the young ones any reason to go out and look for a job with the number there is out of work....AND there are jobs out there but they do not want to do them.

Edited by susmik (03 Jul 2016 8.32pm)

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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ON A POSTER NEAR YOU SOON

BREXIT A POEM

‘Won’t you join our Common Market?’ said the spider to the fly,
‘It really is a winner and the cost is not too high’
‘I know De Gaulle said ’’ Non’’, but he hadn’t got a clue,
‘We want you in, my friends for we have plans for you.

‘You’ll have to pay a little more than we do, just for now,
‘As Herr Kohl said, and I agree, we need a new milch cow,
‘It’s just a continental term, believe me , mon ami,

‘Like ‘’Vive la France’’ or ‘’Mad Anglais’’ or even ‘’E.E.C.’’.

‘As to the rules, don’t worry friend, there’s really but a few
‘You'll find that we ignore them - but they all apply to you.
‘Give and share between us, that’s what it’s all about,
‘You do all the giving, and we all share it out.

‘It’s very British, is it not, to help a friend in need?
‘You’ve done it twice in two World Wars, a fact we must concede,
‘So climb aboard the Market Train, don’t sit there on the side,
‘Your continental cousins want to take you for a ride’

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Hmm, OK young dad. I guess there was something different between the Scottish and UK referenda. Can you please enlighten me.

Also please explain your point about the young of today not knuckling down and getting an education in the light of the statistics for the past 10 years. I am sure you know participation in Higher Education has been rising steadily.

Edited by Mapletree (03 Jul 2016 8.25pm)

Scotland passed a bill that allows 16 and 17's vote in Scottish elections. So not in general elections or UK referenda.

 

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Originally posted by susmik

I guess if you do not know then you need to start keeping up with world wide news instead of harping on all the time about losing the vote and giving us all excuses and reasons why your side of the vote did not win!

The other point you make...All the higher education has not given the young ones any reason to go out and look for a job with the number there is out of work....AND there are jobs out there but they do not want to do them.

Edited by susmik (03 Jul 2016 8.32pm)

Let's try again shall we. 16 and 17 year olds are bitter at being disenfranchised. On such an important issue for the longer term they wanted a say. As that was given to 16 and 17 year olds in the Scottish referendum there is precedent.

Did you really think that I believed they had a legal right to vote but were prevented? I think it is you that needs to keep up.

 

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