And who they might be ???

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

The Tory party who was democratically elected to make decisions on our behalf as with every British government.

Since 1975 the EU has been making undemocratic decisions that most of us don't want.

I voted in 1975.... as a 21 year old who believed that we were voting to stay in the EEC (The European Economic Community) or the Common Market as it was known then.

The vote was 2-1 in favour of remain, but most voters thought it was just a market... not the beginnings of a federal european super state that one day would decide our laws, force to accept mass immigration and subsidise the rest of europe's economies?

And yes... back then those that lost the vote accepted it with dignity and good grace as it was the will of the people.

Much much later we realised we had been conned and this led to the formation of UKIP and also Tories being eurosceptic... even Corbyn was anti EU for 40 years (despite supporting Remain in the 2016 referendum).

These idiots that are now whinging on facebook, starting petitions and protesting in London & Bristol are just pathetic cry baby bad losers.

Democracy has won. Those older voters that felt cheated in 1975, but had to bide their time, had the last laugh as they outvoted the younger generation who were selfishly looking after their personal wealth and not about future generations being able to own their own house.

Older people won because they have more fight and resilience - younger people want it all done for them, preferring a poll on facebook or twitter to decide things rather than adhering to Parliamentary process, like turning up to vote whatever the weather and being registered to vote!

They also won because they have seen what mass immigration has done to their communities since 1975. Younger people accept it for what it is but us old-ens remember a quieter more peaceful time where you could buy a house as a 23 year old, like I did, could see your GP the day you were ill, your kids went to the nearest school to where they lived, could drive around without the roads being grid-locked etc....

Life was good before the EEC/EU and it can be again once we've reversed all the bureaucracy and are in charge of our own destiny.

At least the over 65's won't be on Twitter/Facebook wasting their time whingeing about those needs and wishes - they will roll their sleeves up and get on with fixing what is wrong Maple !

Putting the bins out for collection, getting healthy wholesome food into the household, cutting the grass etc... in other words all the sh1tty stuff the young can't be arsed to do, but expect it to magically happen.

Precisely.

COYP

I look forward to empirical evidence the young no longer cut the lawn.

I have noticed they seem quite keen on cooking and buying decent food. The BBC are very good at sneaking in public information films about stuff like cookery whilst disguising it as entertainment and it appears to be having an effect. Young people are even learning how to sew it seems.

Whatever you think of social media it is the future and fluency is actually rather important. As indeed you as a silver surfer seem to have adopted given you are on this site quite a bit.

I have said this many times, I have faith in the youth of South London, albeit mostly those South of Selhurst. And I find them better informed than many of the older generation with whom I meet. In any case it's going to be their world soon enough. It always amazes me how few people understood the point Knut tried to make so cleverly.

Edited by Mapletree (03 Jul 2016 11.21am)