You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic
April 26 2024 9.28am

The Brexit Thread (LOCKED)

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 672 of 2586 < 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 >

Topic Locked

View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 26 Jun 17 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle


Can anyone name me some edict from an EU unelected official which has impacted negatively on their life?

Come on...surely you aren't serious Cambridge.

The EU want ever closer union. They want to pool sovereignty over Europe into a superstate whilst asking its people as little as possible how they feel about it.

And you are asking about individual laws we don't like?

Tell me Cambridge...You don't like Ukip....what individual laws did Ukip pass that you don't like or have a problem with?

It's the principle.,,,,As well as the commitments within the treaties.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 26 Jun 17 5.56pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Come on...surely you aren't serious Cambridge.

The EU want ever closer union. They want to pool sovereignty over Europe into a superstate whilst asking its people as little as possible how they feel about it.

And you are asking about individual laws we don't like?

Tell me Cambridge...You don't like Ukip....what individual laws did Ukip pass that you don't like or have a problem with?

It's the principle.,,,,As well as the commitments within the treaties.

Well I think the fishermen of the British isles still have a problem.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 26 Jun 17 5.58pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Come on...surely you aren't serious Cambridge.

The EU want ever closer union. They want to pool sovereignty over Europe into a superstate whilst asking its people as little as possible how they feel about it.

And you are asking about individual laws we don't like?

Tell me Cambridge...You don't like Ukip....what individual laws did Ukip pass that you don't like or have a problem with?

It's the principle.,,,,As well as the commitments within the treaties.

Name me a law UKIP have passed...

I'm not against Brexit per se, and I tend to agree that the EU is in need of reform and there are significant problems with it in terms of the ability it affords countries to decide on how it regulates industry and the kind of industrial strategy that countries follow. I think there are a lot of admirable things about the EU though and plenty of rights it affords people which are good on a personal level and protections it provides to workers and the environment that I would be concerned would go under the Tories and need enhancing not eradicating. But it hampers a nation's ability to go further with those protections or make them more relevant. Brexit can be a success but won't be under the Tories.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 26 Jun 17 6.40pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Building regs do you mean?

I doubt anyone unelected decided to impose a directive that simply said "domestic oil tanks should cost £1k extra".

I imagine that any directive (which goes through the European Parliament - elected) would be designed to make such installations more environmentally friendly and safer and ensure that their installations is done properly, and not cutting corners is more expensive.

Your question was "Can anyone name me some edict from an EU unelected official which has impacted negatively on their life?"

I answered your question. The new regulations were entirely EU imposed.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 26 Jun 17 7.05pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Name me a law UKIP have passed...

I'm not against Brexit per se, and I tend to agree that the EU is in need of reform and there are significant problems with it in terms of the ability it affords countries to decide on how it regulates industry and the kind of industrial strategy that countries follow. I think there are a lot of admirable things about the EU though and plenty of rights it affords people which are good on a personal level and protections it provides to workers and the environment that I would be concerned would go under the Tories and need enhancing not eradicating. But it hampers a nation's ability to go further with those protections or make them more relevant. Brexit can be a success but won't be under the Tories.

Well the fact that Ukip haven't passed a law is kind of my point.

They haven't affected you in law yet I bet you don't like them....mainly because of their influence and affect and how they affect the political climate.

It's the same with the EU....it's just from the other side.....and the EU actually have massively more power than Ukip.

You may think that the Tories can't handle leaving the EU but I completely disagree that Labour could get anything like as good a deal.

We have already see the illogical positions Labour and your ideological bedfellow Keir have taken up....when seen against the ruthless nature of the EU I think your preference for Labour doesn't hold water.

Having said that...if Labour were actually taking these talks I can't for the life of me believe they would be as accommodating as they put out.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 26 Jun 17 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

The Tories will be in power and Brexit will start off being a drastic failure, then a few years later the economy will show little green shoots, with the then need for increased immigration from Asia and Africa to fill the employment gaps helping it further, then it will go back to being a failure again.

The Tories will still be in power and on Question Time the old Brexiteers will shout out that it has been a roaring success. And the majority will be confused, feeling poorer, witnessing still more and more immigration from non-EU countries, whilst they are being told how great it has been.

 


Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]


Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 26 Jun 17 8.12pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

The Tories will be in power and Brexit will start off being a drastic failure, then a few years later the economy will show little green shoots, with the then need for increased immigration from Asia and Africa to fill the employment gaps helping it further, then it will go back to being a failure again.

The Tories will still be in power and on Question Time the old Brexiteers will shout out that it has been a roaring success. And the majority will be confused, feeling poorer, witnessing still more and more immigration from non-EU countries, whilst they are being told how great it has been.

Go and live in Romania then. The joke is that you have more chance of seeing your socialist ideas implemented in an independent Britain than in the capitalist cartel of the EU. Of course, if they were, the doom and gloom that you predict for Brexit would occur many times over.

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 26 Jun 17 8.36pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Go and live in Romania then. The joke is that you have more chance of seeing your socialist ideas implemented in an independent Britain than in the capitalist cartel of the EU. Of course, if they were, the doom and gloom that you predict for Brexit would occur many times over.

You bang on about how stupid socialism is yet you believe all the lies Farage has told you and are willing to trade economic prosperity for "sovereignty". It's incredible

 


We're the Arthur over ere!

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post
.TUX. Flag 26 Jun 17 8.40pm

As we know, two more Italian banks failed over the weekend-- Banco Popolare di Vicenza and Veneto Banca.
The Italian Prime Minister himself stated that depositors’ funds were at risk, so the government stepped in with a bailout and guarantee package that could cost taxpayers as much as 17 billion euros.
That’s a lot of money, around 1% of GDP (it’s basically as much as they spent on national defense last year according to an estimate by Italian think tank IAI).
You don’t have to have a PhD in economics to figure out that NO government can afford to spend its entire defense budget every time a couple of medium-sized banks need a bailout.
That goes especially for Italy, whose public debt level is already 132% of GDP… and rising. They simply don’t have the money.
The thing is........Italy has LOTS of banks that are on the ropes.
Throw into the mix the continual problems in Greece and Spain (along with the Deutsche Bank problems that haven't gone away) then the EU (ECB) looks to be in a bit of a pickle.
But all is well according to many? Hmmmm, good luck with that.

 


Buy Litecoin.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 26 Jun 17 8.52pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

You bang on about how stupid socialism is yet you believe all the lies Farage has told you and are willing to trade economic prosperity for "sovereignty". It's incredible

I'm no great fan of Farage. Just ask East Europeans what they think about living under socialism. EU prosperity - ask the mass unemployed youth in Spain and Greece about that.

Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Jun 2017 8.53pm)

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
.TUX. Flag 26 Jun 17 9.12pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I'm no great fan of Farage. Just ask East Europeans what they think about living under socialism. EU prosperity - ask the mass unemployed youth in Spain and Greece about that.

Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Jun 2017 8.53pm)

Sod the foreigners, why not just ask those closer to home how they feel about paying for privately owned institutions to be saved at a cost to the public.........which funnily enough includes your good self.
Why do you find this brand of ''socialism'' acceptable?
You make it up as you go along.


 


Buy Litecoin.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post
View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 26 Jun 17 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

I'm no great fan of Farage. Just ask East Europeans what they think about living under socialism. EU prosperity - ask the mass unemployed youth in Spain and Greece about that.

Edited by hedgehog50 (26 Jun 2017 8.53pm)

It's weird that, the UK has had slower economic growth in the last year than both of those countries. Wonder why?

 


We're the Arthur over ere!

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post

Topic Locked

Page 672 of 2586 < 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Topic