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matt_himself Matataland 17 Dec 17 8.06pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 26 EU countries on the road to a kind of hell and us, the one to differ, on the road to redemption, you mean? That could also be seen as arrogant and false. Where did I say that? Why twist words like that? What I said was that the British people voted against being part of a Federal Superstate. That is the democratic will of the people and must be respected. It is clear that the establishment cannot be trusted on the EU and has led countries to this point by stealth, bullying or ignoring democracy. What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 17 Dec 17 8.06pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

26 EU countries on the road to a kind of hell and us, the one to differ, on the road to redemption, you mean? That could also be seen as arrogant and false.

Where did I say that? Why twist words like that?

What I said was that the British people voted against being part of a Federal Superstate. That is the democratic will of the people and must be respected. It is clear that the establishment cannot be trusted on the EU and has led countries to this point by stealth, bullying or ignoring democracy.

What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 17 8.16pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Where did I say that? Why twist words like that? What I said was that the British people voted against being part of a Federal Superstate. That is the democratic will of the people and must be respected. It is clear that the establishment cannot be trusted on the EU and has led countries to this point by stealth, bullying or ignoring democracy. What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned? Whats the power of veto all about or for then?
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Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 17 8.16pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Where did I say that? Why twist words like that?

What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned?

Whats the power of veto all about or for then?

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Dec 17 8.32pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Where did I say that? Why twist words like that? What I said was that the British people voted against being part of a Federal Superstate. That is the democratic will of the people and must be respected. It is clear that the establishment cannot be trusted on the EU and has led countries to this point by stealth, bullying or ignoring democracy. What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned? Some of the British people. A tiny majority and I'm not as sure all of them would have been as au fait with the intricacies of potential EU evolution as you seem to be. There were a variety of reasons they voted Leave with immigration, money, and sovereignty all being mentioned consistently backed up with general resentment. You can't speak for them as say "They voted against being part of a Federal Superstate" just because that was your main reason for doing so. It's disingenuous. You don't know why exactly they voted Leave because there wasn't one overriding issue. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 17 Dec 17 8.32pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Where did I say that? Why twist words like that?

What I said was that the British people voted against being part of a Federal Superstate. That is the democratic will of the people and must be respected. It is clear that the establishment cannot be trusted on the EU and has led countries to this point by stealth, bullying or ignoring democracy.

What makes you think the 26 countries in the EU want a Federal Superstate? The Eastern Europeans don’t, nor do the Nordics or the likes of Greece. What makes you think they are aligned?

Some of the British people. A tiny majority and I'm not as sure all of them would have been as au fait with the intricacies of potential EU evolution as you seem to be. There were a variety of reasons they voted Leave with immigration, money, and sovereignty all being mentioned consistently backed up with general resentment.

You can't speak for them as say "They voted against being part of a Federal Superstate" just because that was your main reason for doing so. It's disingenuous. You don't know why exactly they voted Leave because there wasn't one overriding issue.

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.TUX. 17 Dec 17 8.42pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Some of the British people. A tiny majority and I'm not as sure all of them would have been as au fait with the intricacies of potential EU evolution as you seem to be. There were a variety of reasons they voted Leave with immigration, money, and sovereignty all being mentioned consistently backed up with general resentment. You can't speak for them as say "They voted against being part of a Federal Superstate" just because that was your main reason for doing so. It's disingenuous. You don't know why exactly they voted Leave because there wasn't one overriding issue. Which should tell you all you need to know. Buy Litecoin.
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17 Dec 17 8.42pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Which should tell you all you need to know.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 17 8.53pm
The EU27’s chief negotiator, however, cast doubt on Sunday as to whether the government would be allowed sufficient flexibility to strike such a deal on Sunday. In an interview with Prospect magazine, Michel Barnier said: “They have to realise there won’t be any cherry picking. We won’t mix up the various scenarios to create a specific one and accommodate their wishes, mixing, for instance, the advantages of the Norwegian model, member of the single market, with the simple requirements of the Canadian one. No way. They have to face the consequences of their own decision.” Barnier also reiterated the EU’s insistence that detailed talks on a future trade deal will only begin after Brexit. Davis has insisted the substance of a trade deal could be in place within the next 12 months. “The actual negotiations on the future relationship will only begin once the UK leaves the EU,” he said. Tory rebels urge Theresa May to form cross-party alliance for soft Brexit [Link] Gonna be a rocky road. The article points towards the idea of a cross party soft Brexit remain in the single market types caucus . There s just too many variables to even guess what the final outcome will be. But if there were a range of reasons for voting for Brexit, not all leavers will get the Brexit means Brexit they thought they were voting for. Still, you can't please all of the people all of the time. Edited by nickgusset (17 Dec 2017 8.55pm)
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Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 17 8.53pm

The EU27’s chief negotiator, however, cast doubt on Sunday as to whether the government would be allowed sufficient flexibility to strike such a deal on Sunday. In an interview with Prospect magazine, Michel Barnier said:

“They have to realise there won’t be any cherry picking. We won’t mix up the various scenarios to create a specific one and accommodate their wishes, mixing, for instance, the advantages of the Norwegian model, member of the single market, with the simple requirements of the Canadian one. No way. They have to face the consequences of their own decision.”

Barnier also reiterated the EU’s insistence that detailed talks on a future trade deal will only begin after Brexit. Davis has insisted the substance of a trade deal could be in place within the next 12 months.

“The actual negotiations on the future relationship will only begin once the UK leaves the EU,” he said.

Tory rebels urge Theresa May to form cross-party alliance for soft Brexit

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Gonna be a rocky road. The article points towards the idea of a cross party soft Brexit remain in the single market types caucus .

There s just too many variables to even guess what the final outcome will be. But if there were a range of reasons for voting for Brexit, not all leavers will get the Brexit means Brexit they thought they were voting for.
Still, you can't please all of the people all of the time.

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Dec 17 8.56pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Which should tell you all you need to know. Explain. Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's. You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 17 Dec 17 8.56pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Which should tell you all you need to know.

Explain.

Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's.

You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 17 Dec 17 9.11pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Explain. Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's. You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'. Lol - you are presuming that by not joining the EU Britain would have been in a time warp. The truth is nobody knows what Britain would be like now had we of not joined. The EU don't have the monopoly on cheap flights. These are available throughout the world and the EU are not responsible for the variety of foodstuffs sold here either as you say. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 17 Dec 17 9.11pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Explain.

Lol - you are presuming that by not joining the EU Britain would have been in a time warp.
The truth is nobody knows what Britain would be like now had we of not joined.
The EU don't have the monopoly on cheap flights. These are available throughout the world and the EU are not responsible for the variety of foodstuffs sold here either as you say.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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.TUX. 17 Dec 17 9.39pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Explain. Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's. You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'. I will when i stop laughing at the above. Edit: Tom beat me to it. Edited by .TUX. (17 Dec 2017 9.40pm) Buy Litecoin.
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17 Dec 17 9.39pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Explain.

I will when i stop laughing at the above.

Edit: Tom beat me to it.

Edited by .TUX. (17 Dec 2017 9.40pm)

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Dec 17 9.52pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Explain. Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's. You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'. Most of this due to the free market economy for all its faults. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Dec 17 9.52pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Explain.

Most of this due to the free market economy for all its faults.

Pro USA & Israel

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steeleye20 Online Croydon 17 Dec 17 9.59pm
Originally posted by .TUX. I will when i stop laughing at the above. Edit: Tom beat me to it. Edited by .TUX. (17 Dec 2017 9.40pm) Your laughter is in the absence of any argument.
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steeleye20 Online

Croydon 17 Dec 17 9.59pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

I will when i stop laughing at the above.

Edit: Tom beat me to it.

Edited by .TUX. (17 Dec 2017 9.40pm)

Your laughter is in the absence of any argument.

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Stirlingsays 18 Dec 17 3.00am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Explain. Yes, I know the EU has its faults, but for all that overall, in the last four decades, in all its incarnations it has served us and Europe well generally considering the state of the place back in the 50's. You been called up yet? No, me neither. You enjoying the cleaner river and sea? Yep, me too. Do you think our relatives from the 1950's and 1960's would gasp in awe about our general standard of living today with all the mod cons and the amazing variety of choice in foodstuffs we have? Yes, me too. And not many of them had been on a plane or abroad. 'What do you mean Rome for £99 return?' That's the same as £9 back in '65' Fantastic'. Classic Kermit. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Dec 17 3.00am