With Poland the issue is that the EU cannot allow state controlled judges, it has been taken up by many other countries, including the UK and Ireland, voicing concerns.

I think if they want to go back to that throwback to the communist era, they should simply be asked to leave.

Poland is the largest beneficiary of the EU and there are other countries waiting.

Not Turkey no.

7 countries Croatia Serbia etc and Iceland are near to membership.

Poland has hardly any immigration.

The issue for the EU is the fundamental value of freedom under the law.

The state cannot control the judiciary, we all subscribe to that surely.

The EU is not just about money but values.

I know you've taken in a recent turn for comedic posts but Steely.....you've outdone yourself with that one.

Poland has hardly any immigration because it's refusing resettling.

As for those countries.....all net takers. I'm happy for the German people to add them to the credit bill.

The fundamental issue for the EU is power.

That list a bit out of date then.

Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey is the latest list I could find, surprised Turkey still there thought that was deceased.

Croatia acceded and Iceland in EEA.

I suspect that most of the nations on the waiting list will be net recipients of EU funds when they join. I hear a rumour that one of the the major contributors is about to leave.

The EU made a huge mistake in trying to be all things to all people too soon. It would have been better if they had set and kept proper economic standards for joining. An EU club of the northern countries of Europe would not have had large numbers of unemployed unskilled people migrating to countries with better economies.

That doesn't mean slamming the door on the poorer countries rather helping them reform their economies, before allowing them to be a full member and joining the euro. This of course takes time and the Eurocrats were not prepared to wait hence the disparities today.

The Eurocrats turned a blind eye to Greece joining the Euro knowing that they had fixed the numbers. This has led to a lot of pain for the average Greek which could have been avoided if the EU has said fix your economy first in your own time and then you can become a full member.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Jun 2018 5.21pm)

Edited by Badger11 (19 Jun 2018 5.23pm)

One more point

I hear a rumour that of the the major contributors is about to leave.

Nice one.

And will no doubt be contributing even more after leaving.

Just google eu waiting list ok.

Macedonia and Greece naming dispute recently resolved.