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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 20 Apr 16 8.51am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

I spoke to someone who works for the council last year and she commented that until recently (this was about May) CPFC had not engaged in any serious talks with a proper plan. She did say that things had started to move but I guess that is still less than 12 months ago so we may have a while to wait yet

 


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View dorking's Profile dorking Flag 20 Apr 16 9.31am Send a Private Message to dorking Add dorking as a friend

Originally posted by Mr. Talons

If the plan is to demolish and rebuild the current Main Stand, they could do worse than think about rotating the pitch 90 degrees. Then:

The Holmesdale End could extend to become the Holmesdale Stand, with the Arthur Waite End and the newbuild End, plus a brand new Main Stand built in front of the current Sainsbury's monstrosity, using the extra 60 foot depth that rotating the pitch would create at the Whitehorse end.

I hope that makes sense, even if it's pie-in-the-sky.

I agree that this would be a very god solution. Main issues would be:

Sun in goalkeepers eyes at the 'Arthur Wait end'

Would need to demolish some houses opposite where the club portacabin offices are in order to get an end stand in there.

Also the Holmesdale side stand would be seriously tall above street level if extended by 2 or 3 more blocks at the Clifton Road end

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 20 Apr 16 9.42am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

I personally belive there is too much red tape around redeveloping selhurst. Parish would put plans in tomorrow If he could, unfortunately I don't think we are being told the full story. I can see why the board wouldn't as it's not exactly morale boosting telling the fans, crystal palace park and selhurst are both no go's so give up that dream.

It's a joke as I'm sure if they wanted to build a brand new apartment block or housing instead it would be giving the go ahead right away.

I work in local government and I assure you that is not true.

Croydon have never fully had our club's interests at heart. Then again, you have to look at the local setting with narrow roads, and dense population most of whom are not fans to see why the attitude is different from say Liverpool CC.

On Brizzle, you may want to Google the redevelopment of Ashton Gate. It is a book in itself with the saga having dragged on for the whole 15 years I have lived out here.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 20 Apr 16 9.43am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by dorking

I agree that this would be a very god solution. Main issues would be:

Sun in goalkeepers eyes at the 'Arthur Wait end'

Would need to demolish some houses opposite where the club portacabin offices are in order to get an end stand in there.

Also the Holmesdale side stand would be seriously tall above street level if extended by 2 or 3 more blocks at the Clifton Road end

Jesus, don't bring Him into this!

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 20 Apr 16 9.45am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

On point, I understand that we have already contracted the same people who are redeveloping Anfield. I suspect we will see tentative plans revealed over the summer and submission to Planning by the Autumn. Then the horse trading begins...

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 20 Apr 16 10.11am Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

South London has been crying out for a successful club, all 3 clubs have historically under achieved but let's face it, the problem is football. Unless your a football fan no one wants 30k football fans congregating in one area half the year. We will get no backing.
Let's look at millwall, Lewisham council would get rid of them in a heartbeat if they could.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 20 Apr 16 10.18am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Let's look at Millwall, Lewisham council would get rid of them in a heartbeat if they could.


Yeah, but you can understand why in their case

 


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90 degree thing isn't an option, Parish said it recently. We'll build over the top of the Main Stand at some point, it just depends what we've got to do to get the permission. We wouldn't have brought in the Yanks to cover the cost of the development if we couldn't ever get it done. It'll get done, be patient.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 20 Apr 16 12.07pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

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Originally posted by We are goin up!

90 degree thing isn't an option, Parish said it recently. We'll build over the top of the Main Stand at some point, it just depends what we've got to do to get the permission. We wouldn't have brought in the Yanks to cover the cost of the development if we couldn't ever get it done. It'll get done, be patient.

Be patient, the main stand was built in 1924, 3 of our stands are probably up there as the worst in the top 4 divisions. I think we've been patient enough. For a club of our size it's not good enough.

 

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View MichaelCPFC's Profile MichaelCPFC Flag Darlington, Up Norf! 20 Apr 16 12.53pm Send a Private Message to MichaelCPFC Add MichaelCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

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Be patient, the main stand was built in 1924, 3 of our stands are probably up there as the worst in the top 4 divisions. I think we've been patient enough. For a club of our size it's not good enough.

Very true but CPFC2010 have only owned the club 6 years now. They bought a club that had been run into the ground and simply not had nearly enough infrastructure investment (That's not me having a go at SJ as he simply ran the club with his heart and didn't have the business sense needed).

We only became a premiership club 3 years ago and promotion came much quicker I think than any of us expected. As a result of that promotion we had to make certain changes, like the TV gantry in the Arthur at Selhurst to simply play in the premiership. That probably used large amounts of resource in itself. You also have to consider 3 years of constant improvements to the playing squad to remain in the premiership.

Given this you can understand the more recent delays.


 


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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 20 Apr 16 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Catfish

Definitely a better solution but ruled out because it would nescessitate the compulsory purchase of a few houses.


Who's to say that hasnt happened already?

 


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View gerrypalace's Profile gerrypalace Flag croydon 20 Apr 16 1.08pm Send a Private Message to gerrypalace Add gerrypalace as a friend

As Originally posted early June 2015

Your explanation is pretty much how I understand extension of the members stand will evolve. I heard that season after next, perhaps subject to us remaining in Prem, club will seek to increase capacity to 32,000 by extending members stand, without closing enclosure, building structure possibly on car park behind stand or constructing over the stand, then joining extension to current structure after some alterations and re ordering. Indeed, I find it difficult to believe even with the millions and of money available our owners will tear down the up graded bars and facilities they invested in this antiquated stand. More likely to re upholstered and further improve fixtures and fittings.

I think any new club shop and removal present positioned porter cabins admin offices may form part of ground and 1st floor building blocks in this redevelopment. This may be similar in height to the current stand. The new extended main stand will incorporate executive boxes presently/temporary in Sainsburys end. By lowering the roof of the Holmesdale Road Stand it could be relined with the new roof on the main stand, though the properties at the junction would either have to be compromised or more likely be less truncated and perturbing. This represents the main challenge of design and engineering

In consultation with the super market the Club probably already looked at extending capacity with another bank of seating in Sainsbury's stand replacing exe boxes and catering for away fans.

There are those who feel Palace do not warrent a possible 35,000 plus stadium. I disagree. If we maintain our status as premiership club we will almost certainly will increase our gates. Even if we don't, we can supply a larger number of match day tickets for away supporters of bigger clubs.

My sense is that we are gradually, kicking and screaming, increasing our membership like not before in this Great Clubs History. Not before TIME you understand. Hoping I'm not counting my Eagles too early this time once again.

 

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