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View ItsCPFCforme's Profile ItsCPFCforme Flag 12 Jul 16 5.01pm Send a Private Message to ItsCPFCforme Add ItsCPFCforme as a friend

I am baffled by this saga. It was basically 'a cert' that he was coming, with tons of news reporting saying it was on, or, even if it wasn't a cert, that he was certainly considering a move/discussions being held etc etc.

For his agent to say that 'there's nothing in these reports' seems absolutely baffling to me; where the f*** did they all come from then? I know the press is full of s***, but not as much as THAT. Even the Guardian and reputable papers like that were saying it was close-ish.

I say the agent is full of s***, but that doesn't mean I necessarily think (any more) that the deal will happen.

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 12 Jul 16 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

As long as he doesn't get too badly injured (and for me that is THE horrific risk) then Benteke should all but guarantee our PL status and not lose a huge amount if we sell him. (Because he's a lump who'd get about a goal in every 2.5 games).

If you take a player like Pelle as an alternative, you pay 10-15m and get zero resale because he's early 30s when his contract ends. In many respects that could make Pelle and late 20s players like him costlier acquisitions. If CB does as expected he probably keeps us up and retains an okay resale value if anyone fancies those wages. (Big if, I accept).

All the above said I wouldn't mind if we missed out.


 


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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 12 Jul 16 5.05pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

As long as he doesn't get too badly injured (and for me that is THE horrific risk) then Benteke should all but guarantee our PL status and not lose a huge amount if we sell him. (Because he's a lump who'd get about a goal in every 2.5 games).

If you take a player like Pelle as an alternative, you pay 10-15m and get zero resale because he's early 30s when his contract ends. In many respects that could make Pelle and late 20s players like him costlier acquisitions. If CB does as expected he probably keeps us up and retains an okay resale value if anyone fancies those wages. (Big if, I accept).

All the above said I wouldn't mind if we missed out.


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View OknotOK's Profile OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 12 Jul 16 5.10pm Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

As long as he doesn't get too badly injured (and for me that is THE horrific risk) then Benteke should all but guarantee our PL status and not lose a huge amount if we sell him. (Because he's a lump who'd get about a goal in every 2.5 games).

If you take a player like Pelle as an alternative, you pay 10-15m and get zero resale because he's early 30s when his contract ends. In many respects that could make Pelle and late 20s players like him costlier acquisitions. If CB does as expected he probably keeps us up and retains an okay resale value if anyone fancies those wages. (Big if, I accept).

All the above said I wouldn't mind if we missed out.

Pelle was just sold for a profit and will be one of the top 10 earning footballers in the world, despite being 30 already (31 this week).

In fact Southampton have recouped enough to cover his transfer fee and about 90% of the wages they paid him over his contract.

But I take your point.

 


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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 12 Jul 16 5.11pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Interestingly, there is not a peep coming from Palace or Liverpool on this and that I think is quite telling.

 


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View CPFC/SCCC's Profile CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 12 Jul 16 5.13pm Send a Private Message to CPFC/SCCC Add CPFC/SCCC as a friend

Benteke still on holiday, so until he returns to England then has a decision to make.

 


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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 12 Jul 16 5.24pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Why does everyone seem to believe the agent

It's not that specific anyway

Given Benteke is supposed to have agreed terms with the Palace, the name of the game now is to smooth the way for Palace to come to an agreement with the scousers.

Just possibly the agent isn't entirely truthful. And just possibly he is putting on the pressure by saying hey Liverpool, if you don't agree a sensible deal with Palace my boy will stay for all five years he is signed up for. And you carry on paying £120k per week for dead wood.

I'm only saying.

His job is to represent Benteke. If he were to have said what he said without CB's consent (and ended up scuppering a move to Palace in the first place) he'd be running the risk of getting sacked off.
If he says CB wants to stay at Liverpool, trust me CB probably wants to stay at Liverpool.
Time to stop kidding ourselves and move on.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Jul 16 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Okay, watch this post-match analysis by Jamie Redknapp and Carragher. It's pretty good and talks about Benteke's strengths, weaknesses and how LFC were not playing to his strengths. It lasts for 4 mins of the 11.

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On 45 seconds is Benteke's goal early in the game. Carragher sums it up for me with this goal why he kept missing chances.

"The thing about that goal is it's instinct. He doesn't have to think." He goes on about his recent one on one misses where he has to too much time to think. Then, "It's really quick, it's a good finish and he proves he can finish if he doesn't have to think for too long."

It's where I think LFC and Beneteke will never fit. The interesting bit where they show the pass to Benteke they fail to make and keep going sideways. And the one-two on the halfway line and away Benteke goes, only to miss the one on one, something he finished at Villa where his confidence was higher.

 


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View Crystal_Clear's Profile Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 12 Jul 16 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

Klopp needs to make it clear whether Benteke is part of his plans or not.

If not, then Benteke should really be finding another club. Unless he is the type of footballer to sit in reserves in pickup £140k a week.

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 12 Jul 16 5.36pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Benteke still on holiday, so until he returns to England then has a decision to make.

Not so, returned from holiday yesterday but is not due back at Liverpool for another 10 days. Extra time off because of the Euros.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Jul 16 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

His job is to represent Benteke. If he were to have said what he said without CB's consent (and ended up scuppering a move to Palace in the first place) he'd be running the risk of getting sacked off.
If he says CB wants to stay at Liverpool, trust me CB probably wants to stay at Liverpool.
Time to stop kidding ourselves and move on.

This agent is known to be very sh1tty and it's worth remembering that Klopp doesn't even want to talk to Benteke, let alone play him.

I'd say Benteke either has to move very soon or LFC will not receive an offer AND/or Benteke will not receive an offer of matched wages. The longer he sits on the bench, the more he gets frustrated and the wage offer drops.

He needs to come to terms with the fact he's not wanted by Klopp and wasn't signed by Klopp.

 


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View ItsCPFCforme's Profile ItsCPFCforme Flag 12 Jul 16 5.40pm Send a Private Message to ItsCPFCforme Add ItsCPFCforme as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Okay, watch this post-match analysis by Jamie Redknapp and Carragher. It's pretty good and talks about Benteke's strengths, weaknesses and how LFC were not playing to his strengths. It lasts for 4 mins of the 11.

[Link]

On 45 seconds is Benteke's goal early in the game. Carragher sums it up for me with this goal why he kept missing chances.

"The thing about that goal is it's instinct. He doesn't have to think." He goes on about his recent one on one misses where he has to too much time to think. Then, "It's really quick, it's a good finish and he proves he can finish if he doesn't have to think for too long."

It's where I think LFC and Beneteke will never fit. The interesting bit where they show the pass to Benteke they fail to make and keep going sideways. And the one-two on the halfway line and away Benteke goes, only to miss the one on one, something he finished at Villa where his confidence was higher.

Thanks for this. Decent analysis. If we get him he'll really fit our system; we're far more direct than 'Pool. Plus the experience of grinding out results with a god-awful Villa side is definitely useful to a team like us... yes, we're better, but we really need battlers.

 

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