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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 08 Nov 16 9.02am
I was having a look at our games up until the end of Jan : Sat Nov 19 Manchester City Sat Nov 26 Swansea City Sat Dec 3 Southampton Sat Dec 10 Hull City Wed Dec 14 Manchester United Sat Dec 17 Chelsea Mon Dec 26 Watford Sun Jan 1 Arsenal Tue Jan 3 Swansea City Sat Jan 14 West Ham United Sat Jan 21 Everton Tue Jan 31 Bournemouth I have highlighted where I think 3 points is an absolute must and were I think a draw is achievable IF we don't forget that we have a back four. IF we get these results that gives us an extra 15 points meaning we would be going into February with 26 points. That leaves us 15 Games to get to 40, a further 14 points. Which is what I think safety will be for this season. April and May take up take up 2/3 of the fifteen games left (10 games in two months) of which we play the following. Chelsea away Southampton Away Arsenal home Leicester home Liverpool away Burnley Home Going on current form I see us only getting 3 points in April. Meaning 12 points from saftey with 3 games left that are : Man city away Hull Home Man united Away leaving us short of the 40 point total. The months of Feb an March are going to be so vital to our survival where we have 6 games : Sunderland Home Stoke Away Boro Home West Brom Away Spurs away Watford Home Red is a must win Green is possible draw by the way Basically we need to be safe, or there abouts by the end of march, or to be blunt we are f***ed. Edited by dannyh (08 Nov 2016 9.09am) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 08 Nov 16 9.02am

I was having a look at our games up until the end of Jan :

Sat Nov 19 Manchester City
Sat Nov 26 Swansea City
Sat Dec 3 Southampton
Sat Dec 10 Hull City
Wed Dec 14 Manchester United
Sat Dec 17 Chelsea
Mon Dec 26 Watford
Sun Jan 1 Arsenal
Tue Jan 3 Swansea City
Sat Jan 14 West Ham United
Sat Jan 21 Everton
Tue Jan 31 Bournemouth

I have highlighted where I think 3 points is an absolute must and were I think a draw is achievable IF we don't forget that we have a back four.

IF we get these results that gives us an extra 15 points meaning we would be going into February with 26 points. That leaves us 15 Games to get to 40, a further 14 points. Which is what I think safety will be for this season.

April and May take up take up 2/3 of the fifteen games left (10 games in two months) of which we play the following.

Chelsea away
Southampton Away
Arsenal home
Leicester home
Liverpool away
Burnley Home

Going on current form I see us only getting 3 points in April. Meaning 12 points from saftey with 3 games left that are :

Man city away
Hull Home
Man united Away

leaving us short of the 40 point total. The months of Feb an March are going to be so vital to our survival where we have 6 games :

Sunderland Home
Stoke Away
Boro Home

West Brom Away
Spurs away
Watford Home

Red is a must win Green is possible draw by the way
Basically we need to be safe, or there abouts by the end of march, or to be blunt we are f***ed.

Edited by dannyh (08 Nov 2016 9.09am)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 08 Nov 16 9.13am
Originally posted by bexleydave There are sufficient quotes to make the meaning completely unambiguous: "Anyone who knows the way I manage, I like my teams to be on the front foot and score goals, so clean sheets have never been the top of my priority," he said. "But, of course, they are important and I have been looking for one, because it will give us the foundation to win a game. "I want my team to play, I want my team to entertain. Certain Palace fans are focusing on that part of our game (keeping clean sheets), then that's understandable – but I am not going to change the way we play. "I want us to play and entertain. I felt the game against Liverpool, poised at 3-2, was an unbelievably great game for anyone watching. "Our Palace fans should be enjoying the fact we were having a go at Liverpool and not sitting back, looking to just stop them. So, that's how I am and that's how it is." Entertainment, regardless of results, will see us relegated as will his complete inability to recognise that there's a problem. He's actually suggesting that those who actually part with their hard-earned should be somehow grateful for his performances this year. Well after the string of lies Ritson has written before, I would be inclined to treat his scribbling with scepticism the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 08 Nov 16 9.13am

Originally posted by bexleydave

There are sufficient quotes to make the meaning completely unambiguous:

"Anyone who knows the way I manage, I like my teams to be on the front foot and score goals, so clean sheets have never been the top of my priority," he said.

"But, of course, they are important and I have been looking for one, because it will give us the foundation to win a game.

"I want my team to play, I want my team to entertain. Certain Palace fans are focusing on that part of our game (keeping clean sheets), then that's understandable – but I am not going to change the way we play.

"I want us to play and entertain. I felt the game against Liverpool, poised at 3-2, was an unbelievably great game for anyone watching.

"Our Palace fans should be enjoying the fact we were having a go at Liverpool and not sitting back, looking to just stop them. So, that's how I am and that's how it is."

Entertainment, regardless of results, will see us relegated as will his complete inability to recognise that there's a problem. He's actually suggesting that those who actually part with their hard-earned should be somehow grateful for his performances this year.

Well after the string of lies Ritson has written before, I would be inclined to treat his scribbling with scepticism

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Nov 16 9.19am
We only attack teams at home after going behind, which is happening regularly at home as well as away. And that's after the possession football of passing it around the back and getting closed down every time whilst we don't close much and struggle to work out why x or y are having a field day on left or right wing or in the centre without any instructions to close him or prevent any of it. When we do attack teams, because they're ahead they all sit back and we struggle or fail to score. He can be happy he stuck to his principles watching sky sports up on the hill or in Spain on the pull for 20 year olds. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Nov 16 9.19am

We only attack teams at home after going behind, which is happening regularly at home as well as away. And that's after the possession football of passing it around the back and getting closed down every time whilst we don't close much and struggle to work out why x or y are having a field day on left or right wing or in the centre without any instructions to close him or prevent any of it.

When we do attack teams, because they're ahead they all sit back and we struggle or fail to score.

He can be happy he stuck to his principles watching sky sports up on the hill or in Spain on the pull for 20 year olds.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Nov 16 9.33am
dannyh, I've only been looking up to Christmas and I've been concerned. Now I'm worried. What that chancer did at Burnley not protecting the halfway line just shows he is reckless and that is eventually dangerous when wins come few and far between. If he had any sense he'd have in the back of his mind 'Right, we've got the harder games at home and the easier sides away until Christmas when I might not be in this job. A trickle of points until a win or 2 should see us ok. Joel, Zeki, James, all of you sit back and sit in. Yohan, sit outside the box.' Thats still 6 in the box. Did he f*. Didn't enter his mind Burnley wanted to maximise points at home did he. Mind you I didn't think they'd equalise or we'd be so stupid. I lost my HT lay bet on Burnley I could've covered with a cheap back of Burnley but with a corner for us who would? Us from now on. If we don't come out of the easier games following hard games with decent points I trust SP will do the right thing and get someone you can trust he understands the value of points and not his own image. Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Nov 2016 9.36am) Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Nov 2016 9.37am) COYP**
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Nov 16 9.33am

dannyh, I've only been looking up to Christmas and I've been concerned. Now I'm worried. What that chancer did at Burnley not protecting the halfway line just shows he is reckless and that is eventually dangerous when wins come few and far between. If he had any sense he'd have in the back of his mind 'Right, we've got the harder games at home and the easier sides away until Christmas when I might not be in this job. A trickle of points until a win or 2 should see us ok. Joel, Zeki, James, all of you sit back and sit in. Yohan, sit outside the box.' Thats still 6 in the box.

Did he f***. Didn't enter his mind Burnley wanted to maximise points at home did he. Mind you I didn't think they'd equalise or we'd be so stupid. I lost my HT lay bet on Burnley I could've covered with a cheap back of Burnley but with a corner for us who would? Us from now on.

If we don't come out of the easier games following hard games with decent points I trust SP will do the right thing and get someone you can trust he understands the value of points and not his own image.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Nov 2016 9.36am)

Edited by Rudi Hedman (08 Nov 2016 9.37am)

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bexleydave Barnehurst 08 Nov 16 9.43am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Well after the string of lies Ritson has written before, I would be inclined to treat his scribbling with scepticism Putting your fingers in your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA won't change what's being said. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 08 Nov 16 9.43am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Well after the string of lies Ritson has written before, I would be inclined to treat his scribbling with scepticism

Putting your fingers in your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA won't change what's being said.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 08 Nov 16 9.47am
Originally posted by bexleydave Putting your fingers in your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA won't change what's being said. I'm not, just that Ritson has previous. It was only after a public spat with another journalist (Gareth Davies who called him out) on twitter that he finally admitted he lied Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (08 Nov 2016 9.49am) the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 08 Nov 16 9.47am

Originally posted by bexleydave

Putting your fingers in your ears and going LA LA LA LA LA won't change what's being said.

I'm not, just that Ritson has previous. It was only after a public spat with another journalist (Gareth Davies who called him out) on twitter that he finally admitted he lied

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (08 Nov 2016 9.49am)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 08 Nov 16 10.12am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch I'm not, just that Ritson has previous. It was only after a public spat with another journalist (Gareth Davies who called him out) on twitter that he finally admitted he lied Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (08 Nov 2016 9.49am) Straws and clutching spring to mind. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 08 Nov 16 10.12am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I'm not, just that Ritson has previous. It was only after a public spat with another journalist (Gareth Davies who called him out) on twitter that he finally admitted he lied

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (08 Nov 2016 9.49am)

Straws and clutching spring to mind.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Nov 16 10.59am
I think if Pardew cannot get at least 7 points by the 26 Dec 2016, then he has to go. I don't expect to beat Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea. But I don't mind if we do, and say drop points against Hull or Swansea. If we lose the next four games, then he has to go. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 08 Nov 16 10.59am

I think if Pardew cannot get at least 7 points by the 26 Dec 2016, then he has to go. I don't expect to beat Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea. But I don't mind if we do, and say drop points against Hull or Swansea.

If we lose the next four games, then he has to go.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Nov 16 11.04am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think if Pardew cannot get at least 7 points by the 26 Dec 2016, then he has to go. I don't expect to beat Man City, Man Utd or Chelsea. But I don't mind if we do, and say drop points against Hull or Swansea. If we lose the next four games, then he has to go. You're almost at the point I am. Do you actually mean if we lose the next 4? Will 1 draw be enough? Or do you actually mean like I do that he has to actually win one match in the next 4 at the very least? Even then he's on shaky ground and only 1/2 games from the golden handshake of however many million to go on the pull in 20 something bars in Marbella. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Nov 16 11.04am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

If we lose the next four games, then he has to go.

You're almost at the point I am.

Do you actually mean if we lose the next 4? Will 1 draw be enough? Or do you actually mean like I do that he has to actually win one match in the next 4 at the very least? Even then he's on shaky ground and only 1/2 games from the golden handshake of however many million to go on the pull in 20 something bars in Marbella.

COYP

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PalazioVecchio south pole 08 Nov 16 11.09am
All this negativity and criticism. But you must praise Pardew for playing entertaining football. Entertaining, that is, for the opposition fans to watch. Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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south pole 08 Nov 16 11.09am

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All this negativity and criticism. But you must praise Pardew for playing entertaining football. Entertaining, that is, for the opposition fans to watch.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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chateauferret 08 Nov 16 11.12am
I didn't find Saturday's shambles remotely entertaining, apart from a few spells of Wilf. All I really saw was the worst defending I can remember and two set pieces at their end of which we made such a bollocks that we managed to concede more or less directly from them. "Embarrassing" would be a better description than "entertaining". Or maybe just "s***e". ============ The Ferret ============
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08 Nov 16 11.12am

I didn't find Saturday's shambles remotely entertaining, apart from a few spells of Wilf. All I really saw was the worst defending I can remember and two set pieces at their end of which we made such a bollocks that we managed to concede more or less directly from them. "Embarrassing" would be a better description than "entertaining". Or maybe just "s***e".

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PalazioVecchio south pole 08 Nov 16 11.17am
when i think of the great managers, i imagine them attending games of small clubs during the close season and consolidating their work for the new season. when i think of Pardew, i think of the link below... [Link] Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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PalazioVecchio

south pole 08 Nov 16 11.17am

when i think of the great managers, i imagine them attending games of small clubs during the close season and consolidating their work for the new season.

when i think of Pardew, i think of the link below...

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Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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