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steven_t92 Orpington 17 Nov 16 10.24am
"We were unlucky to get relegated that year. Sacking Pardew would have changed nothing" At this rate it's what you'll hear this time next year....
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Orpington 17 Nov 16 10.24am

"We were unlucky to get relegated that year. Sacking Pardew would have changed nothing"

At this rate it's what you'll hear this time next year....

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james03 Bangkok 17 Nov 16 10.28am
Since when has the calendar year ever meant anything in English league football. Have things changed and nobody told me? A season runs from August to May and it is what happens in that time that gives us our final position in May! This calendar year stuff is all media tripe and so many people are buying in to it. Just assume the first and second halves of last season were swapped around. We would have all the moaning over with in December and AP would have then been lauded for the teams second half performance. OK we have had an up and down start this season but we are playing better football than previous seasons. Defensively there is a lack of confidence and this is exacerbated by our lack of someone playing the Jedi type role. I have little doubt that by the end of December we will be around 13th or 14th and then have a good plus second half of the season and end up 10th or thereabouts. The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx
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Bangkok 17 Nov 16 10.28am

Since when has the calendar year ever meant anything in English league football. Have things changed and nobody told me?

A season runs from August to May and it is what happens in that time that gives us our final position in May! This calendar year stuff is all media tripe and so many people are buying in to it.

Just assume the first and second halves of last season were swapped around. We would have all the moaning over with in December and AP would have then been lauded for the teams second half performance.

OK we have had an up and down start this season but we are playing better football than previous seasons. Defensively there is a lack of confidence and this is exacerbated by our lack of someone playing the Jedi type role.

I have little doubt that by the end of December we will be around 13th or 14th and then have a good plus second half of the season and end up 10th or thereabouts.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

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bexleydave Barnehurst 17 Nov 16 11.29am
Originally posted by james03 Since when has the calendar year ever meant anything in English league football. Have things changed and nobody told me? A season runs from August to May and it is what happens in that time that gives us our final position in May! This calendar year stuff is all media tripe and so many people are buying in to it. Just assume the first and second halves of last season were swapped around. We would have all the moaning over with in December and AP would have then been lauded for the teams second half performance. OK we have had an up and down start this season but we are playing better football than previous seasons. Defensively there is a lack of confidence and this is exacerbated by our lack of someone playing the Jedi type role. I have little doubt that by the end of December we will be around 13th or 14th and then have a good plus second half of the season and end up 10th or thereabouts. I think that the argument, that form in the previous season is irrelevant, is entirely specious, especially when that form is carried through to the next season. Football management is different to many jobs in that it's performed in discrete packages called 'seasons', but I disagree that poor performance in part of a preceding season can be ignored when judging an individual's overall record. There are other jobs where work in carried out in similar discrete parcels. A good example is teaching, carried out over academic years. Would it be acceptable for a teacher, warned for poor performance in the summer term, to have that expunged from the records if there were still performance concerns in the autumn term, just because it was the start of the new academic year? Well, that's what we're being asked to do in respect of Pardew. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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bexleydave

Barnehurst 17 Nov 16 11.29am

Originally posted by james03

Since when has the calendar year ever meant anything in English league football. Have things changed and nobody told me?

A season runs from August to May and it is what happens in that time that gives us our final position in May! This calendar year stuff is all media tripe and so many people are buying in to it.

I have little doubt that by the end of December we will be around 13th or 14th and then have a good plus second half of the season and end up 10th or thereabouts.

I think that the argument, that form in the previous season is irrelevant, is entirely specious, especially when that form is carried through to the next season. Football management is different to many jobs in that it's performed in discrete packages called 'seasons', but I disagree that poor performance in part of a preceding season can be ignored when judging an individual's overall record.

There are other jobs where work in carried out in similar discrete parcels. A good example is teaching, carried out over academic years. Would it be acceptable for a teacher, warned for poor performance in the summer term, to have that expunged from the records if there were still performance concerns in the autumn term, just because it was the start of the new academic year?

Well, that's what we're being asked to do in respect of Pardew.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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