Technically though your own argument is rhetorical as you are basing our ability going forward on previous results (some of which from months ago). Nobody is under any illusions on things being rosy, however things really aren't that bad, we're currently sat 2 positions above last year's Europa qualifiers and 1 position behind the PL champions. These facts are further reason for why I cannot accept the levels of vitriol aimed at Pardew.

Edited by rawpalace05 (11 Dec 2016 4.49pm)

1/6/2010.a new era.we made it everyone!!!lets get the ball rolling for another 105 years of proud history.thank you cpfc2010.

palace forever.eeaaaaaaaaaaaaaggglless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know you are not asking me, and I realise it might be not be success, as in winning the league, but I base my assumptions of "success" on the fact that we have a point per game so far. Even with some dodgy games going against us, and some dodgy defending by us. That might be enough to keep us up. That would be enough for me. It is quite normal, as I'm sure you know, for Palace to do things the hard way. But I am not blind to the fact that we are also capable of throwing it all away. If we sack the manager now, do you think we would actually be that much better off? Or is it just that, even though we have solved the scoring problem, you would rather us play like a Pulis team. If results were all that mattered, we could maybe get a defensive only manager, but it still wouldn't be any fun. I'm loving the excitement. I never know what to expect. To me that is far better than 0-0, 1-0, 0-1's.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

..I wouldn't say we're watching s*** every week, ridicules s*** refereeing yes and ridicules s*** individual mistakes by our players yes, but take that away and we have a decent squad that should finish safely and I expect them to do so quite easily in the end, this league is very tight and nobody even up to Watford are safe, teams know we are a bit frail at the back and that encourages them to try their luck whereas against us in previous games they would have been a bit more cautious, yesterday the ref didn't help this image one bit but I can see an improvement...the only real cock up for me was their last goal which should have been dealt with by at least three separate players quite easily, the pen and their good second goal had nothing to do with any mistakes.

It is to me maybe not to you. I'm a believer in you make your own luck. Regarding the heart attack I wouldn't 1 at all regardless of what I was doing. Southampton weren't at the races & we somehow managed to find some luck convert the chances it will occasionally happen. I think most people will agree that it needs to be happening a little bit more often than it has been doing through whatever reasons you can't always blame the Ref or injuries or misfortune sometimes you have to control the things you can.