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Bullhorn76 Darlington 02 Feb 17 6.35pm
Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace. The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return. “This is not place for me to give advice to Mamadou,” he said. “Who knows what will change in five months? He still has a contract at Liverpool. "He should concentrate on Crystal Palace. It’s not something we think about at this moment. We can wait for new impressions and see what happens.”
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Darlington 02 Feb 17 6.35pm

Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace.

The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return.

“This is not place for me to give advice to Mamadou,” he said. “Who knows what will change in five months? He still has a contract at Liverpool.
"He should concentrate on Crystal Palace. It’s not something we think about at this moment. We can wait for new impressions and see what happens.”

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bexleydave Barnehurst 02 Feb 17 6.38pm
Originally posted by Bullhorn76 Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace. The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return. “This is not place for me to give advice to Mamadou,” he said. “Who knows what will change in five months? He still has a contract at Liverpool. "He should concentrate on Crystal Palace. It’s not something we think about at this moment. We can wait for new impressions and see what happens.” Certainly looks that way. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 02 Feb 17 6.38pm

Originally posted by Bullhorn76

Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace.

The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return.

Certainly looks that way.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Straightbackup Crystal Palace 02 Feb 17 9.19pm
Originally posted by Bullhorn76 Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace. The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return. “This is not place for me to give advice to Mamadou,” he said. “Who knows what will change in five months? He still has a contract at Liverpool. "He should concentrate on Crystal Palace. It’s not something we think about at this moment. We can wait for new impressions and see what happens.” Sorry, forgive me if I'm missing something but where does he imply that we don't get an option to buy if we stay up? Can't see anything in your post that implies it 'Impulse' advert- Advertising campaign whose slogan is expected to change in the light of Rajiv Gandhi's assassination: 'If someone you don't know suddenly offers you flowers- run like f***!'
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Originally posted by Bullhorn76

Does this mean if we stay up we don't get an option to buy ? Source - SSN........Jurgen Klopp has been talking about Mamadou Sakho's future after his Deadline Day move to Crystal Palace.

The defender is on loan with Palace until the end of the season, but Klopp has not ruled out a Liverpool return.

Sorry, forgive me if I'm missing something but where does he imply that we don't get an option to buy if we stay up? Can't see anything in your post that implies it

'Impulse' advert- Advertising campaign whose slogan is expected to change in the light of Rajiv Gandhi's assassination: 'If someone you don't know suddenly offers you flowers- run like f***!'

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dp Tunbridge Wells 03 Feb 17 7.18am
Originally posted by Straightbackup Sorry, forgive me if I'm missing something but where does he imply that we don't get an option to buy if we stay up? Can't see anything in your post that implies it I was about to type the same thing. All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal. We will have an option to buy, just like every other club in the world will. All Klopp did was to try to protect his investment, he is saying that he would take him back, just so nobody thinks they are going to get Sakho for cheap. That is all.
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Tunbridge Wells 03 Feb 17 7.18am

Originally posted by Straightbackup

Sorry, forgive me if I'm missing something but where does he imply that we don't get an option to buy if we stay up? Can't see anything in your post that implies it

I was about to type the same thing.

All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal.

We will have an option to buy, just like every other club in the world will. All Klopp did was to try to protect his investment, he is saying that he would take him back, just so nobody thinks they are going to get Sakho for cheap. That is all.

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Petereagle Brockley 03 Feb 17 8.48am
Originally posted by dp I was about to type the same thing. All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal. We will have an option to buy, just like every other club in the world will. All Klopp did was to try to protect his investment, he is saying that he would take him back, just so nobody thinks they are going to get Sakho for cheap. That is all. [Link] I hope Ferdinand is right! A loan deal with an option to buy is a great solution for Palace, but no way would Palace get him on the cheap
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Brockley 03 Feb 17 8.48am

Originally posted by dp

I was about to type the same thing.

All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal.

[Link]

I hope Ferdinand is right! A loan deal with an option to buy is a great solution for Palace, but no way would Palace get him on the cheap

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bexleydave Barnehurst 03 Feb 17 9.32am
Originally posted by dp I was about to type the same thing. All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal. We will have an option to buy, just like every other club in the world will. All Klopp did was to try to protect his investment, he is saying that he would take him back, just so nobody thinks they are going to get Sakho for cheap. That is all. There are loan deals with a formalised option to buy within the loan contract, often at an agreed price. It would appear that we don't have such a contractual option. Of course we can put in an offer in the next window, like any other club. Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)
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Barnehurst 03 Feb 17 9.32am

Originally posted by dp

I was about to type the same thing.

All that seems to have happened is that a journalist has tried to squeeze a few more column inches out of the deal.

There are loan deals with a formalised option to buy within the loan contract, often at an agreed price. It would appear that we don't have such a contractual option. Of course we can put in an offer in the next window, like any other club.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 03 Feb 17 2.07pm
I've had this paranoid thought that, although cleared, the drugs test thing is really why Klopp took against Sakho. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I've had this paranoid thought that, although cleared, the drugs test thing is really why Klopp took against Sakho.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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dp Tunbridge Wells 04 Feb 17 1.09pm
Originally posted by bexleydave There are loan deals with a formalised option to buy within the loan contract, often at an agreed price. It would appear that we don't have such a contractual option. Of course we can put in an offer in the next window, like any other club. Yes, I did not mean to be obtuse. The post was that we don't have an option to buy at the end of the loan, and the link was to an interview with Klopp. The reference being that Liverpool would not now consider selling Sakho at the end of the loan. The interview with Klopp said nothing of the sort, and seemed to be non-committal on Sakho's future. Given that Liverpool would not accept less than £20 million, it would seem that this would have been the option to buy figure. Since we all felt that £20 million was an exorbitant figure, I do hope that when Sakho comes in and nails it, we don't end up with a load of muppets saying that we should have signed up to an option to buy. Especially since this was an 11th hour signing and the to and fro to add in these sorts of clauses would no doubt have made it impossible to complete in the time. There was no interest at £20 million, so if we decide to offer £20 million at some point then I am pretty sure we will get him.
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Tunbridge Wells 04 Feb 17 1.09pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

Yes, I did not mean to be obtuse. The post was that we don't have an option to buy at the end of the loan, and the link was to an interview with Klopp. The reference being that Liverpool would not now consider selling Sakho at the end of the loan.

The interview with Klopp said nothing of the sort, and seemed to be non-committal on Sakho's future.

Given that Liverpool would not accept less than £20 million, it would seem that this would have been the option to buy figure. Since we all felt that £20 million was an exorbitant figure, I do hope that when Sakho comes in and nails it, we don't end up with a load of muppets saying that we should have signed up to an option to buy. Especially since this was an 11th hour signing and the to and fro to add in these sorts of clauses would no doubt have made it impossible to complete in the time.

There was no interest at £20 million, so if we decide to offer £20 million at some point then I am pretty sure we will get him.

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mattteo 04 Feb 17 6.35pm
Any team paying 20 million for a center back is in the wrong. No central defender is worth that much money. Zapata from Milan, Nkoulou from Lyon, Mbemba from Newcastle, Zambrano from Einthracht are all available for fees between 0,5 and 5 million. You could save 15 million to buy an attacking player. Also, Caceres and Papadopoulous were available for free this window. The Greek has just put on a wonderful performance against his former team Leverkusen and scored the winning goal for struggling Hamburg in the Bundesliga in his first match. More options will appear until the summer. Buying Sakho for 20 million is just silly, even for Premier League prices.
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04 Feb 17 6.35pm

Any team paying 20 million for a center back is in the wrong.

No central defender is worth that much money. Zapata from Milan, Nkoulou from Lyon, Mbemba from Newcastle, Zambrano from Einthracht are all available for fees between 0,5 and 5 million.
You could save 15 million to buy an attacking player.

Also, Caceres and Papadopoulous were available for free this window. The Greek has just put on a wonderful performance against his former team Leverkusen and scored the winning goal for struggling Hamburg in the Bundesliga in his first match.
More options will appear until the summer.

Buying Sakho for 20 million is just silly, even for Premier League prices.

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 04 Feb 17 8.57pm
I hope he can play as the lot I watched today didn't have a clue
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Bexley Kent 04 Feb 17 8.57pm

I hope he can play as the lot I watched today didn't have a clue

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Gyro1780 Leatherhead, Surrey 04 Feb 17 9.00pm
Originally posted by mattteo Any team paying 20 million for a center back is in the wrong. No central defender is worth that much money. Zapata from Milan, Nkoulou from Lyon, Mbemba from Newcastle, Zambrano from Einthracht are all available for fees between 0,5 and 5 million. You could save 15 million to buy an attacking player. Also, Caceres and Papadopoulous were available for free this window. The Greek has just put on a wonderful performance against his former team Leverkusen and scored the winning goal for struggling Hamburg in the Bundesliga in his first match. More options will appear until the summer. Buying Sakho for 20 million is just silly, even for Premier League prices. He won't be £20m in the summer. January's prices are always higher. I'm guessing will be somewhere around £12m-£15m
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