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 Herts_CPFC  09 Feb 17 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The point is just that we said we would take 3,000 and we are not, in fact we are taking 350. Basically we are dishonest its a matter of reputation and whether we can be trusted at all in world affairs. We've taken in more that our fair share of migrants and if we don't have the capacity to service the needs of another bunch, then it's right we don't take them in. Saying that, i do hinknspecial exception should be made for genuine children that can be identified out of all the other men masquerading as minors to play the system, or kids being used by their parents as a "way in" to Britain through the back door.
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| .TUX. 09 Feb 17 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You wont get more out of me when you keep repeating party political broadcasts, especially when the bear no resemblance to reality. The ''reality'' is that we've experienced under-investment in our infrastructure for many years now (regardless of party), and yes, the austerity measures were wrong, as dear old George now admits.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 17 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
The ''reality'' is that we've experienced under-investment in our infrastructure for many years now (regardless of party), and yes, the austerity measures were wrong, as dear old George now admits. What infrastructure are you referring to exactly?
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| Jamesey Wandsworth 09 Feb 17 1.44pm |
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Eureka (or “you don’t smella so good yourself” as Chico Marx once said), there was I, in my pleasant reverie, thinking I had been involved in helping compile and write for a football supporters’ site for 16 years. Foolishly I thought the most important thing in my limited universe here was that I am being chucked out of my much-loved season ticket seat in the Arthur to make way for more disadvantaged supporters in August. Within the context of HOL, that is the most important matter for me at present so, earnest and well-intentioned though you might be, dear debaters, forgive me please for not giving a monkeys about Syrian refugee children.
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| .TUX. 09 Feb 17 2.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What infrastructure are you referring to exactly? The big bits.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 17 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
The big bits. you must mean all the things that have huge amounts of money spent on them annually but have no chance of keeping pace with mass immigration as any improvements are swallowed up.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Feb 17 2.19pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are they worse than the Syrian war zone? Probably not. But its also not asylum when some of those countries are also funding Sunni salafist extremists that were trying to kill you. Seems a bit contradictory to insist that people fleeing an oppressive, brutal regime, should first seek shelter in a slightly less overt brutal regime. Its important to remember that pre-civil war Syria, for all its oppression, was strangely progressive (much like a pre-1992 Iraq), especially in regards to women (being primarily a secular state). You might think its ok, for women to be sent to live in Saudi, the UAE or Kuwait - I don't.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Feb 17 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
you must mean all the things that have huge amounts of money spent on them annually but have no chance of keeping pace with mass immigration as any improvements are swallowed up. Migration is an entirely different question to refugees. There is not a UK refugee problem. There is a migration problem, that's entirely driven by corporate interests, funnelled through the EU Freedom of Movemement. People like to 'merge the two' because their issue tends to be more about issues, but they're entirely separate. The UK has an problem and its with working migration. It doesn't have, and never has had a population problem relating to asylum, which rarely have even reached 1/5th of the emigrating UK Population.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 09 Feb 17 2.39pm |
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If you dont want an influx of refugees in the future, try not to believe fake news, dont believe in massive guns, dont invade countrys where although despots, are kept under the thumb by two strong leaders, rightly or wrongly, and dont destabilise the whole middle east, costing hundreds of thousands of lives including our own troops, and billions of pounds that could have been spent on our nhs,,,,,,,,,,simples!
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 09 Feb 17 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by Jamesey
Eureka (or “you don’t smella so good yourself” as Chico Marx once said), there was I, in my pleasant reverie, thinking I had been involved in helping compile and write for a football supporters’ site for 16 years. Foolishly I thought the most important thing in my limited universe here was that I am being chucked out of my much-loved season ticket seat in the Arthur to make way for more disadvantaged supporters in August. Within the context of HOL, that is the most important matter for me at present so, earnest and well-intentioned though you might be, dear debaters, forgive me please for not giving a monkeys about Syrian refugee children. Entirely forgiven, Jamesey.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 17 2.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Probably not. But its also not asylum when some of those countries are also funding Sunni salafist extremists that were trying to kill you. Seems a bit contradictory to insist that people fleeing an oppressive, brutal regime, should first seek shelter in a slightly less overt brutal regime. Its important to remember that pre-civil war Syria, for all its oppression, was strangely progressive (much like a pre-1992 Iraq), especially in regards to women (being primarily a secular state). You might think its ok, for women to be sent to live in Saudi, the UAE or Kuwait - I don't.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Feb 17 2.55pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Migration is an entirely different question to refugees. There is not a UK refugee problem. There is a migration problem, that's entirely driven by corporate interests, funnelled through the EU Freedom of Movemement. People like to 'merge the two' because their issue tends to be more about issues, but they're entirely separate. The UK has an problem and its with working migration. It doesn't have, and never has had a population problem relating to asylum, which rarely have even reached 1/5th of the emigrating UK Population.
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