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jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Feb 17 1.33pm
Originally posted by Painter Could somebody explain a simple question. As we are sending millions in aid to these countries, why are we then also taking their people in as refugees? Because Aid is an incentive to get those countries to do business with us. Timukawakido wants a water treatment plant. The UK gives it 10m in aid for water treatment facilities in the country, and in return, Thames Water UK gets a contract, to build it, run it and maintain it for 15-20 years, which in turn generates around 1-2bn for Thames Water. No one gets anything for free in Capitalism, there is always strings attached. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 10 Feb 17 1.33pm

Originally posted by Painter

Could somebody explain a simple question.

As we are sending millions in aid to these countries, why are we then also taking their people in as refugees?

Because Aid is an incentive to get those countries to do business with us.

Timukawakido wants a water treatment plant. The UK gives it 10m in aid for water treatment facilities in the country, and in return, Thames Water UK gets a contract, to build it, run it and maintain it for 15-20 years, which in turn generates around 1-2bn for Thames Water.

No one gets anything for free in Capitalism, there is always strings attached.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 10 Feb 17 1.40pm
Stiff upper lip Fighting the Hun Always play with a straight bat Fck the Frenchies Marquess of Queensbury rules. Expand the Empire Opening doors for ladeeez. Public Schools oiks and riff-raff jobs for the boys entrenched discrimination in The Establishment strikes Pioneering engineering like Concorde, the Spitfire, the Austin Princess and stuff,... losing at sport, quite a lot Being bloody-minded and resistant to decimalisation. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Stiff upper lip
Fighting the Hun
Always play with a straight bat
Fck the Frenchies
Marquess of Queensbury rules.
Expand the Empire
Opening doors for ladeeez.
Public Schools
oiks and riff-raff
jobs for the boys
entrenched discrimination in The Establishment
strikes
Pioneering engineering like Concorde, the Spitfire, the Austin Princess and stuff,...
losing at sport, quite a lot
Being bloody-minded and resistant to decimalisation.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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DanH SW2 10 Feb 17 1.57pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Stiff upper lip Fighting the Hun Always play with a straight bat Fck the Frenchies Marquess of Queensbury rules. Expand the Empire Opening doors for ladeeez. Public Schools oiks and riff-raff jobs for the boys entrenched discrimination in The Establishment strikes Pioneering engineering like Concorde, the Spitfire, the Austin Princess and stuff,... losing at sport, quite a lot Being bloody-minded and resistant to decimalisation. I know this is very much tongue in cheek but it's depressing how people that think like this are now in positions of power.
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SW2 10 Feb 17 1.57pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I know this is very much tongue in cheek but it's depressing how people that think like this are now in positions of power.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Feb 17 2.08pm
Originally posted by DanH I know this is very much tongue in cheek but it's depressing how people that think like this are now in positions of power. And thank God they are. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 10 Feb 17 2.08pm

Originally posted by DanH

I know this is very much tongue in cheek but it's depressing how people that think like this are now in positions of power.

And thank God they are.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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DanH SW2 10 Feb 17 2.20pm
Originally posted by Painter Could somebody explain a simple question. As we are sending millions in aid to these countries, why are we then also taking their people in as refugees? Because they need food, water, medical supplies, transport and assistance to help them in places that have been destroyed or taken over. And then they need a safe place to live. You're welcome.
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SW2 10 Feb 17 2.20pm

Originally posted by Painter

Could somebody explain a simple question.

As we are sending millions in aid to these countries, why are we then also taking their people in as refugees?

Because they need food, water, medical supplies, transport and assistance to help them in places that have been destroyed or taken over.

And then they need a safe place to live.

You're welcome.

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DanH SW2 10 Feb 17 2.22pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt And thank God they are. Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it.
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DanH

SW2 10 Feb 17 2.22pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

And thank God they are.

Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 10 Feb 17 3.28pm
Originally posted by martin2412 And to supplement their low wages we pay them benefits, whereas usually the Brits leaving are taking their money with them. It's a lose lose situation for the country.i I'd also query your figures as according to migration watch, the net migration figure into the U.K. For the year to June 2016 is 330,000. Uber?
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Any european country i fancy! 10 Feb 17 3.28pm

Originally posted by martin2412

And to supplement their low wages we pay them benefits, whereas usually the Brits leaving are taking their money with them. It's a lose lose situation for the country.i

I'd also query your figures as according to migration watch, the net migration figure into the U.K. For the year to June 2016 is 330,000.

Uber?

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 10 Feb 17 4.01pm
Originally posted by DanH Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it. Your general attitude suggests that you would benefit greatly from doing so. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 10 Feb 17 4.01pm

Originally posted by DanH

Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it.

Your general attitude suggests that you would benefit greatly from doing so.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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hedgehog50 Croydon 10 Feb 17 7.42pm
Originally posted by DanH Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it. A big problem would be having to put up with George Formby. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 10 Feb 17 7.42pm

Originally posted by DanH

Yep. Buzzing to be back in the 1930s. Never quite got into the roleplay fully back at school but now I can fully embrace it.

A big problem would be having to put up with George Formby.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 10 Feb 17 9.27pm
I must have misunderstood all this. But isn't this all about the Dub's agreement, whereby we take child refugees from Europe? Where they already have safety from the constant tyranny of oppressors/war. Nothing to do with taking in genuine refugees directly from war-torn/oppressive countries. I'm getting on a bit, so maybe I have it all wrong. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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I must have misunderstood all this. But isn't this all about the Dub's agreement, whereby we take child refugees from Europe? Where they already have safety from the constant tyranny of oppressors/war.

Nothing to do with taking in genuine refugees directly from war-torn/oppressive countries.

I'm getting on a bit, so maybe I have it all wrong.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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europalace Europe 11 Feb 17 2.49am
Originally posted by bashy2 Britain has survived 2 world wars and when we were being bombed we never moved across the channel we stayed her so why should we take anybody we are full up Britain is any easy ticket that's why were in such a mass There are nearly 3 million British immigrants living in other EU countries.
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Europe 11 Feb 17 2.49am

Originally posted by bashy2

Britain has survived 2 world wars and when we were being bombed we never moved across the channel we stayed her so why should we take anybody we are full up Britain is any easy ticket that's why were in such a mass

There are nearly 3 million British immigrants living in other EU countries.

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europalace Europe 11 Feb 17 3.18am
Originally posted by Herts_CPFC Limiting and controlling the amount of refugees/immigrants we are able to absorb has nothing to do with contravening British values at all. I'm glad our government is showing a bit of backbone and we've got the channel as some kind of buffer zone from the madness going on in Europe. 'Madness going on in Europe'? The only 'madness' I've seen is that of British citizens being hoodwinked and lied to simply to get votes. I've continually lived in several EU countries over the last 25 years and never seen any 'madness' that you seem so convinced about. What I do see when I visit the UK are many bitter and twisted British people who can't seem to accept that others (non British) doing a generally better job at living and working in the UK than themselves. Life in most EU countries has been and is going on just fine contrary to what you read in much of the British media. The UK has been and is doing a very good job on itself at insuring in falls behind most EU countries in terms of quality of life and a future for its younger generations. If it stopped continually pointing fingers at others and finally admitted it has got a lot wrong in its society and long term economy through its own doings, it could start to move forward again. However, with recent events that doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime in the short to mid-term time frame.
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Originally posted by Herts_CPFC

Limiting and controlling the amount of refugees/immigrants we are able to absorb has nothing to do with contravening British values at all.

I'm glad our government is showing a bit of backbone and we've got the channel as some kind of buffer zone from the madness going on in Europe.

'Madness going on in Europe'? The only 'madness' I've seen is that of British citizens being hoodwinked and lied to simply to get votes. I've continually lived in several EU countries over the last 25 years and never seen any 'madness' that you seem so convinced about. What I do see when I visit the UK are many bitter and twisted British people who can't seem to accept that others (non British) doing a generally better job at living and working in the UK than themselves. Life in most EU countries has been and is going on just fine contrary to what you read in much of the British media. The UK has been and is doing a very good job on itself at insuring in falls behind most EU countries in terms of quality of life and a future for its younger generations. If it stopped continually pointing fingers at others and finally admitted it has got a lot wrong in its society and long term economy through its own doings, it could start to move forward again. However, with recent events that doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime in the short to mid-term time frame.

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