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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 May 19 7.21pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

I doubt there has been any missing child case here that's had more time and money thrown at it than this one.

Police resources would be better spent on other missing children, especially considering that breakthroughs and positive outcomes are far more likely to come after days and weeks rather than decades.


You have absolutely no concept of irony.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 May 19 7.29pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC


You have absolutely no concept of irony.

Yawn. Every post from you here is some kind of pointless and unnecessary snipe.

I was primarily trying to move on from your 'it's outrageous that we should either spend money on this or KNIFE CRIME YOBS!!' which enters every post you make, based solely on a suggestion & false choice that one person made, and is attributed to multiple people who didn't even say it since.

My point stands. I'd rather money was invested in other missing kids because it can do more good. Regardless of whatever on the go gripe you have, it's a perfectly valid point and more central to the issue at hand that your recent foolishness. In fact it's the only point I've even made aside from making the grave mistake of replying to your equally stupid '9/10 parents' comment. Latch onto someone else with your attitude problem.

Get back on topic.

Edited by dollardays (08 May 2019 8.02pm)

Edited by dollardays (08 May 2019 8.03pm)

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 May 19 8.02pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

Yawn. Every post from you here is some kind of pointless snipe.

I was primarily trying to move on from your 'it's outrageous that we should either spend money on this or KNIFE CRIME YOBS!!' which enters every post you make, based solely on a suggestion & false choice that one person made, and is attributed to multiple people who didn't even say it since.

My point stands. I'd rather money was invested in other missing kids because it can do more good. Regardless of whatever on the go gripe you have, it's a perfectly valid point and more central to the issue at hand that your recent foolishness. In fact it's the only point I've even made aside from making the grave mistake of replying to your equally stupid '9/10 parents' comment. Latch onto someone else with your attitude problem.

Get back on topic.


Edited by dollardays (08 May 2019 7.59pm)

This.

This entire post is the very definition of irony.

Absolutely zero self awareness.


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 May 19 8.13pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

This.

This entire post is the very definition of irony.

Absolutely zero self awareness.


Edited by ChrisGC (08 May 2019 8.03pm)


You've spend the entire thread talking about devoting money to Maddie, so the irony is lost on you not me and I've deflected from nothing.

If you want to talk about this issue in a serious way, I suggest that you attempt to do so. My comment and suggestion of where I think our attention and resources should be reflect the seriousness of the topic at hand. If you want to instead endlessly rinse a dark and depressing topic for some kind of forum thrill or point scoring you keep at it.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 May 19 8.41pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We could invest even more money into the McCann situation....but the elites have been doing that on our behalf for how many years now?. Ultimately perhaps the McCanns were too smart and too lucky for anything to come of it.


Edited by Stirlingsays (06 May 2019 4.23pm)

I operate from a perspective that we'll never truly know what happened at this point. I'm with you on the money point though. I'm all for people individually donating where they wish, but when it's countless millions from the public purse it doesn't sit well with me. It's not a stretch to say that lives could've been saved with those resources and the media gaze had instead been placed on more recent missing children.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 May 19 8.56pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Just seen this thread(again etal) & having just been in the Algarve, got back today, NO ONE is in the slightest bothered about the McCanns.

As far as the people who WE spoke to, it happened, its a shame, but loads of local kids go missing as well. What ever happened to all the missing kids in this country from decades ago?

just saying.

It does sound like a harsh approach, but it's a valuable and sobering perspective to highlight too. It shines a light on the constant media obsession with the case here and how it's impacted the national psyche.

It's in the media's interest to have go to cases that they can pontificate about for a decade. For them it's more like a soap storyline that the public become engrossed in rather than trying to help solve a crime. I wonder how many other missing kids' plights have been snuffed out or not properly investigated or funded due to the weight this case carries.


 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 08 May 19 9.09pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Or her parents could have shaken her to death and lobbed her down a well. It would be nice to know, wouldn't it?

Perhaps we could invest time and resources into investigating the matter?

Oh no, wait: let's talk about knifings in London instead and then go ballistic and start insulting everyone when we're unable to take on and digest very simple words.

What an absolute intellect void this thread is.

Edited by ChrisGC (08 May 2019 5.15pm)

12 years and over 12 million and NOT ONE SINGLE line of inquiry has led anywhere - they know nothing more today than they did 12 years ago, except (in some cases) who didn't do it.

What chance is there, realistically, of suddenly finding a fresh piece of conclusive evidence that will ever solve this case? I would suspect none at all.

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 May 19 9.57pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by becky

12 years and over 12 million and NOT ONE SINGLE line of inquiry has led anywhere - they know nothing more today than they did 12 years ago, except (in some cases) who didn't do it.

What chance is there, realistically, of suddenly finding a fresh piece of conclusive evidence that will ever solve this case? I would suspect none at all.

More chance in my opinion of success then spending a single bean on knife crime without addressing community enablement, which was my original point.

The fact that it's almost hopeless is what I'm getting at.

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 May 19 9.59pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays


You've spend the entire thread talking about devoting money to Maddie, so the irony is lost on you not me and I've deflected from nothing.

If you want to talk about this issue in a serious way, I suggest that you attempt to do so. My comment and suggestion of where I think our attention and resources should be reflect the seriousness of the topic at hand. If you want to instead endlessly rinse a dark and depressing topic for some kind of forum thrill or point scoring you keep at it.

The clue is in the thread title ffs.

Just another poster who thinks they're more intelligent then they are. Embarrassing.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 08 May 19 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

I operate from a perspective that we'll never truly know what happened at this point. I'm with you on the money point though. I'm all for people individually donating where they wish, but when it's countless millions from the public purse it doesn't sit well with me. It's not a stretch to say that lives could've been saved with those resources and the media gaze had instead been placed on more recent missing children.

In terms of guilt and innocence I've been in both camps over the McCann incident. My automatic bias was obviously towards innocence at first because of how most of the media presented the case and of how the McCanns front up.

When I looked into the evidence side of things I ended up 65/35 with accidental death and cover up.

Sure I could be wrong.....I think it happened once in 92.

As for the money spent on it. Initially I think few of us would have had a problem: a missing child is a missing child. However, after a time it really hasn't been defensible from a balanced and/or rational perspective. However, Maddie is a headline and the politician who says no gets the hitjob articles.


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 08 May 19 10.28pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

More chance in my opinion of success then spending a single bean on knife crime without addressing community enablement, which was my original point.

The fact that it's almost hopeless is what I'm getting at.

Is your post no longer 'ironic' Chris? Becky is entirely right in what she says. , which mirrored my POV. And again, just because one person here said early on that the money should be spend on knife crime instead, why on earth are you suggesting that those are the two options at hand. They clearly aren't.

If you want to talk about knife crime, there are plenty of threads for that, and this isn't one of them. The very real issue here is whether the money 12 years and over 12 million are a worthwhile ongoing expense, and beyond that, whether targetting this money at other missing children would've made more of a difference. Logically it would've done.

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Originally posted by becky

12 years and over 12 million and NOT ONE SINGLE line of inquiry has led anywhere - they know nothing more today than they did 12 years ago, except (in some cases) who didn't do it.

What chance is there, realistically, of suddenly finding a fresh piece of conclusive evidence that will ever solve this case? I would suspect none at all.

Tragically, almost no chance. You're bang on in my view with what has become the futility of it all. It's turned into an something that's distasteful and yet always has legs due to the media obsession surrounding it.

 

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