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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 06 May 19 4.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

We could invest even more money into the McCann situation....but the elites have been doing that on our behalf for how many years now?. Ultimately perhaps the McCanns were too smart and too lucky for anything to come of it.

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 07 May 19 1.36pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Here it is again in full, what part are you struggling with?

9/10 in these inner city knifings the parents are part of the root cause.

It's all: "mercy mercy me lord done took my baby" followed by "stop and search is racist, f*** the police".

It's a gang culture problem. They know who the perpetrators are in gang violence cases but until the communities take the lead in changing the culture and holding their own families and community to standards of civilised behaviour and work with police then it's not going to change.

I would rather devote the dough to finding out what happened to Maddie.

I don’t like the suggestion that 90% of victims parents are part of the cause - I think that’s a massive over-estimation; whilst undoubtedly there are a percentage of victims who are from these communities themselves, there’s also a huge overspill of people who are affected by knife crime who are not; certainly more than 10%.

The idea that Maddie’s parents, who’ve already had more funding and support than any of these victims, are more worthy of it, does not make any sense to me. Particularly when they are not blameless in their own tragedy.


 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 07 May 19 2.02pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The idea that Maddie’s parents, who’ve already had more funding and support than any of these victims, are more worthy of it, does not make any sense to me. Particularly when they are not blameless in their own tragedy.

I agree.

The money supply is finite and far more has been spent on this one abduction / murder than on most others and it's time to say enough's enough.

I know that the police involved would be happy to continue investigating the case as they get an all expenses paid jolly on the Algarve for their troubles

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 07 May 19 5.02pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

9/10 in these inner city knifings the parents are part of the root cause.


I would rather devote the dough to finding out what happened to Maddie.

The environment clearly doesn't help for the most part, but blaming 9/10 parents for their kids getting stabbed is just a comment based on the lack of affinity you feel for those involved. You'd apparently rather endless millions go towards the impossible task of finding the child of a nice upstanding middle class family. The irony escapes you that their actions one way or another are indeed a root cause of what happened to their own daughter.


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 07 May 19 5.09pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I agree.

The money supply is finite and far more has been spent on this one abduction / murder than on most others and it's time to say enough's enough.

I know that the police involved would be happy to continue investigating the case as they get an all expenses paid jolly on the Algarve for their troubles

100%. How many missing children have been completely overlooked due to this endless fixation and spend on one child? This isn't a Hallmark movie. She's not going to just show up now, and other children that could've been helped or rescued from God knows what horrors are routinely overlooked due to this.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 07 May 19 6.53pm

Originally posted by dollardays

The environment clearly doesn't help for the most part, but blaming 9/10 parents for their kids getting stabbed is just a comment based on the lack of affinity you feel for those involved. You'd apparently rather endless millions go towards the impossible task of finding the child of a nice upstanding middle class family. The irony escapes you that their actions one way or another are indeed a root cause of what happened to their own daughter.


Edited by dollardays (07 May 2019 5.11pm)

At no point have I said 9/10 parents are to blame.

Not sure it's really irony as it has never been established what happened to Maddie McCann.

As we're playing the "miss the point and spin your own bias game" I infer that you and the other geezer who can't digest simple sentences think that because a child's parents are white, middle class idiots that an innocent child is an unworthy subject for investigative finance.

You'd rather the money went to stopping a load of gang yobbos chiving eachother up over an 8 ball (behaviour fully enabled by their communities) rather than establishing guilt, catching child killers, or preventing murdering peadophile gangs that do unspeakable things to little girls?

I know where I'd rather my tax went, it's a no brainer really for any decent person.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 07 May 19 6.59pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don’t like the suggestion that 90% of victims parents are part of the cause - I think that’s a massive over-estimation; whilst undoubtedly there are a percentage of victims who are from these communities themselves, there’s also a huge overspill of people who are affected by knife crime who are not; certainly more than 10%.

The idea that Maddie’s parents, who’ve already had more funding and support than any of these victims, are more worthy of it, does not make any sense to me. Particularly when they are not blameless in their own tragedy.


So because the parents are morons, we should wipe our hands of one of our own British children getting done by a peadophile gang?

Poundweek suggested I lacked empathy for a bunch of thugs running about killing eachother because I'd rather the money went to finding a child.
You and he don't feel that way, so what does that say about you and where your empathy lies?

I'm happy about the direction my moral compass is pointing, you two need a recalibration.


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Just seen this thread(again etal) & having just been in the Algarve, got back today, NO ONE is in the slightest bothered about the McCanns.

As far as the people who WE spoke to, it happened, its a shame, but loads of local kids go missing as well. What ever happened to all the missing kids in this country from decades ago?

just saying.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 07 May 19 7.07pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Just seen this thread(again etal) & having just been in the Algarve, got back today, NO ONE is in the slightest bothered about the McCanns.

As far as the people who WE spoke to, it happened, its a shame, but loads of local kids go missing as well. What ever happened to all the missing kids in this country from decades ago?

just saying.

Lovely. Won't be going there in a hurry then of there's loads of local kids going missing and the attitude is a shrug of the shoulders. And your response is to adopt the same attitude to the supposed thousands of kids going missing over here without word? As if all this is normal and acceptable? It's a load of horse s***.

Another moral compass that needs checking.


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 07 May 19 7.14pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

At no point have I said 9/10 parents are to blame.

Not sure it's really irony as it has never been established what happened to Maddie McCann.

As we're playing the "miss the point and spin your own bias game" I infer that you and the other geezer who can't digest simple sentences think that because a child's parents are white, middle class idiots that an innocent child is an unworthy subject for investigative finance.

You'd rather the money went to stopping a load of gang yobbos chiving eachother up over an 8 ball (behaviour fully enabled by their communities) rather than establishing guilt, catching child killers, or preventing murdering peadophile gangs that do unspeakable things to little girls?

I know where I'd rather my tax went, it's a no brained really for any decent person.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

In no way have I suggested that any money at all should be attributed to "gangs of yobbos" or any of this babbled nonsense:

"You'd rather the money went to stopping a load of gang yobbos chiving eachother up over an 8 ball (behaviour fully enabled by their communities) rather than establishing guilt, catching child killers, or preventing murdering peadophile gangs that do unspeakable things to little girls?"

I simply said that I don't blame or see 9/10 of the parents of knifed kids as the root cause for it, which funnily enough is what you said. It may be that you're desperate to pop me in some convenient box and mouth off, but actually what you will be doing in winding your neck in, rather than attributing paragraphs of babbled fantasy to me, as nothing I said is in any way aligned with it.

What I did say, again, if you can bring yourself to mentally engage for a second is that I believe money spent on McCann is a lost cause at this point and would be better spend on other kids:

"How many missing children have been completely overlooked due to this endless fixation and spend on one child? This isn't a Hallmark movie. She's not going to just show up now, and other children that could've been helped or rescued from God knows what horrors are routinely overlooked due to this."

There. That's what I said should be done instead of the endless Maddie spending. Pasted to ease your understanding of it. A requirement it seems. Those are my words and that's what you'll take in. Now go and behave like a prat to someone else rather than me.

Edited by dollardays (07 May 2019 7.18pm)

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 07 May 19 7.23pm

Originally posted by dollardays

In no way have I suggested that any money at all should be attributed to "gangs of yobbos" or any of this babbled nonsense:

"You'd rather the money went to stopping a load of gang yobbos chiving eachother up over an 8 ball (behaviour fully enabled by their communities) rather than establishing guilt, catching child killers, or preventing murdering peadophile gangs that do unspeakable things to little girls?"

I simply said that I don't blame or see 9/10 of the parents of knifed kids as the root cause for it, which funnily enough is what you said. It may be that you're desperate to pop me in some convenient box and mouth off, but actually what you will be doing in winding your neck in, rather than attributing paragraphs of babbled fantasy to me, as nothing I said is in any way aligned with it.

What I did say, again, if you can bring yourself to mentally engage for a second is that I believe money spent on McCann is a lost cause at this point and would be better spend on other kids:

"How many missing children have been completely overlooked due to this endless fixation and spend on one child? This isn't a Hallmark movie. She's not going to just show up now, and other children that could've been helped or rescued from God knows what horrors are routinely overlooked due to this."

There. That's what I said should be done instead of the endless McCan. Pasted to ease your understanding of it. A requirement it seems. Those are my words and that's what you'll take in. Now go and behave like a prat to someone else rather than me.

Edited by dollardays (07 May 2019 7.16pm)

You can backtrack all you want, but I still never said that I blamed 9/10 parents which you're still spouting.

At least you'll be able to learn the definition of irony from this increasingly ridiculous exchange.

You've gone off on one about inaccuracies in my interpretation of your post (which was my point) whilst still trotting out inaccuracies about mine.

 

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Originally posted by ChrisGC

You can backtrack all you want, but I still never said that I blamed 9/10 parents which you're still spouting.

At least you'll be able to learn the definition of irony from this increasingly ridiculous exchange.

You've gone off on one about inaccuracies in my interpretation of your post (which was my point) whilst still trotting out inaccuracies about mine.

You said "9/10 in these inner city knifings the parents are part of the root cause." which implies a level of blame due to their attitude on the issue. I've backtracked on nothing.

You bizarrely and out of nowhere stated of me that "You'd rather the money went to stopping a load of gang yobbos chiving eachother up over an 8 ball (behaviour fully enabled by their communities) rather than establishing guilt, catching child killers, or preventing murdering peadophile gangs that do unspeakable things to little girls"

If you're worried about accuracy, it's yourself you need a word with because my only other words here were in agreement with Midland Eagle where I said that "How many missing children have been completely overlooked due to this endless fixation and spend on one child? This isn't a Hallmark movie. She's not going to just show up now, and other children that could've been helped or rescued from God knows what horrors are routinely overlooked due to this."

So as I've said, money should be used to help other missing children, many who have been subjected to horrors.

Apparently in whatever fantasy world is in your head you warp my desire to rescue children from the very horrors you mention into some kind of response where I'm fine with pedo gangs raping young girls. Way to use the misery of abused kids to pointlessly point score on a forum. That's something to be proud of isn't it. I've clearly and provably said the exact and complete opposite of your bizarre attack.



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