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 OknotOK  Cockfosters, London 05 Apr 17 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You are just proving my previous point succinctly. You are incapable of independently defending 'your' ideology. No he's not. He's showing (not necessarily proving but coming pretty close) that when he does attempt to defend his position you have - rather than argue a point - called him delusional or that his view will change "when he gets a proper job and mortgage". In other words doing exactly what you have accused him and "the left" of doing. What a surprise.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 05 Apr 17 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Anyone can say anything in opposition. You don't have to act upon it. Please.
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| DanH SW2 05 Apr 17 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
They're not above introducing retrospective legislation, as I'm sure you're aware.
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| matt_himself Matataland 05 Apr 17 2.43pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
No he's not. He's showing (not necessarily proving but coming pretty close) that when he does attempt to defend his position you have - rather than argue a point - called him delusional or that his view will change "when he gets a proper job and mortgage". In other words doing exactly what you have accused him and "the left" of doing. What a surprise. He has consistently posted unsubstantiated statements that he cannot defend when questioned. Today is the latest in this chain. If you think that we are dealing with some sort of political leviathan, then you are wrong. He is a middle class kid playing suburban ache Guevara but without his actual involvement in a revolution. What a surprise you cannot see this or will acknowledge it.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 05 Apr 17 2.47pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
He has consistently posted unsubstantiated statements that he cannot defend when questioned. Today is the latest in this chain. If you think that we are dealing with some sort of political leviathan, then you are wrong. He is a middle class kid playing suburban ache Guevara but without his actual involvement in a revolution. What a surprise you cannot see this or will acknowledge it. I'm neither bothered about his revolutionary credentials nor have claimed to believe or not. Once again - as you like to do when challenged - you've decided to put words into my mouth. You've decided to deride a whole political movement and then showed the exact same tactic that you claim the Left is capable of. I guess it isn't just "the Left" then.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
They're not above introducing retrospective legislation, as I'm sure you're aware. Yep. I'm pretty sure the who private / public employment is a trap, that after the first legal case of 'discriminatory business practices' will be expanded to all sub-contractor business. With IR35 they first went for IT contractors, then anyone else, irrespective of whether they'd 'taken the p1ss' or not. Friend of mines brother in law was investigated as a regular session musician at a local recording studio. The whole tax system needs to be overhauled and reformed fairly to represent people and their types of employment. The HMRC contractor thing has gone beyond 'getting a fair share of tax' to becoming a system of penalising people for HMRC's own failure to effectively regulate taxation.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Apr 17 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
He has consistently posted unsubstantiated statements that he cannot defend when questioned. Today is the latest in this chain. If you think that we are dealing with some sort of political leviathan, then you are wrong. He is a middle class kid playing suburban ache Guevara but without his actual involvement in a revolution. What a surprise you cannot see this or will acknowledge it. I don't know whether that was intentional or not, but it has made me s****** twice.
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| Nest 05 Apr 17 2.58pm |
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| matt_himself Matataland 05 Apr 17 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I'm neither bothered about his revolutionary credentials nor have claimed to believe or not. Once again - as you like to do when challenged - you've decided to put words into my mouth. You've decided to deride a whole political movement and then showed the exact same tactic that you claim the Left is capable of. I guess it isn't just "the Left" then. Where did I put words in your mouth? Please do clarify.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 05 Apr 17 3.13pm |
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What a surprise you cannot see this or will acknowledge it. I didn't say he was a genuine political revolutionary or a middle class spotty oik from Redhill. Nor was I bothered. What prompted me was your attempt to label everyone from the opposing political view to you as using a particular deflection method, which you yourself had just done.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Apr 17 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Then you don't know this area very well. Have a look at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation website about child poverty in this country. Read the TES. Take your head out of the sand man. Just because Corbyn said it, doesn't mean it isn't true. Edited by nickgusset (05 Apr 2017 1.50pm) Can we have a breakdown of the income and outgoings of these families, then perhaps we can see how they prioritise their expenditure.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 05 Apr 17 3.27pm |
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As much as it flatters me to see this thread turning in to a speculation about my identity, can we just ignore those who wish to derail all forms of political conversation and do the thing they want least, which is to discuss the issues of this thread like adults?
If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4 |
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