Not getting a good feeling about Frank
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 CPFC/SCCC  Sutton 22 Jul 17 8.44am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Well obviously, but there's a whole load of people who've been watching this squad for a lot longer than Frank who don't agree. If he knows such much about 4-3-3, I'd recommend he gives that a go first as we've struggled whenever we've tried to go three at the back. I agree, but if this 3-4-3 formation can be successful, it will give us a plan B option that could be crucial next season.
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adrian b  Landrindod, Wales 22 Jul 17 8.50am |
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Originally posted by the.universal
Look - I know it's very early days and we can't draw too many conclusions yet, but I do have a few concerns: Recent palace history shows we fare much better keeping it tight and attacking on the break and horrendously badly when we try and open up and outplay better teams: We don't have the players to pass out from defence through central midfield, so we will need wholesale player changes to make that happen. From the friendly today, we took far too many liberties in deep areas with high risk and little potential reward. In this way I was reminded of Holloway. The other thing I don't like is how gleeful Parish was with getting FdB in. I wonder whether he has fully engaged his rational mind on this one. So, I'm not making any concrete conclusions just yet, very early days as we all know. But I feel Frank has to get on with defensive / keeper recruitment pronto. Wow, fancy telling a former international how to do his job. As a matter of interest this first match with Franky in charge was just that. Palace did ok and players were given the eye. Plenty of boys came on, which we must applaud. As for playing out, I think Palace did quite well,on that one. Only Sclupp looked a bit challenged there i thought. But Delany? 38 now and looked pucked last season. Not serious are we?
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 22 Jul 17 8.53am |
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Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC
I agree, but if this 3-4-3 formation can be successful, it will give us a plan B option that could be crucial next season. As a plan B, I agree.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jul 17 8.59am |
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FDB will of course be judged by results in the rarefied and intense atmosphere of the PL. If we win our opening game with a new formation he will be lauded as "Progressve", should we lose (God forbid) he will be pilloried for trying to change too quickly etc etc etc and the Pardew "Transition" arguments will come to the fore.
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| laddo london 22 Jul 17 9.03am |
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To be fair to OP I think he's merely reflecting an unease about playing transformation. I too am worried but that's because pardew so royally messed up adopting a different style last year it's left a scar that will take a while to vanish. 4-3-3 I could stomach and feel relatively ok. 3-4-3 with our current personnel feels too much too soon.
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 22 Jul 17 9.05am |
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Originally posted by laddo
To be fair to OP I think he's merely reflecting an unease about playing transformation. I too am worried but that's because pardew so royally messed up adopting a different style last year it's left a scar that will take a while to vanish. 4-3-3 I could stomach and feel relatively ok. 3-4-3 with our current personnel feels too much too soon.
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| Dan89 Se25 22 Jul 17 9.07am |
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Originally posted by laddo
To be fair to OP I think he's merely reflecting an unease about playing transformation. I too am worried but that's because pardew so royally messed up adopting a different style last year it's left a scar that will take a while to vanish. 4-3-3 I could stomach and feel relatively ok. 3-4-3 with our current personnel feels too much too soon. I agree, but let's see how this formation works against someone in our bracket in terms of wba. If he still look poor with it today, then I think frank will need a rethink.
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| Nobbybm Dartford 22 Jul 17 9.10am |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Well obviously, but there's a whole load of people who've been watching this squad for a lot longer than Frank who don't agree. If he knows such much about 4-3-3, I'd recommend he gives that a go first as we've struggled whenever we've tried to go three at the back. But none of those people are working with the players day in, day out. It's always possible that it was poor coaching that caused previous problems, but I guess we won't know until it's tried. Would be good to have a plan b for once.
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| adrian b Landrindod, Wales 22 Jul 17 9.11am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
I agree, but let's see how this formation works against someone in our bracket in terms of wba. If he still look poor with it today, then I think frank will need a rethink. Don't you think you're reading too much into this? Of course Franky will be rethinking his position regarding the playing style best suited. That's what he's been hired to do.
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| Dan89 Se25 22 Jul 17 9.15am |
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Originally posted by adrian b
Don't you think you're reading too much into this? Of course Franky will be rethinking his position regarding the playing style best suited. That's what he's been hired to do. I probably am.
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| .TUX. 22 Jul 17 9.17am |
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Originally posted by laddo
To be fair to OP I think he's merely reflecting an unease about playing transformation. I too am worried but that's because pardew so royally messed up adopting a different style last year it's left a scar that will take a while to vanish. 4-3-3 I could stomach and feel relatively ok. 3-4-3 with our current personnel feels too much too soon. Well said.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 22 Jul 17 10.38am |
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Yes I find Frank's comment that the squad are best suited to 3-4-3 yet he therefore needs to go and get a bunch of new defenders to play it a bit odd. Interesting. Could be great or painful or a short experiment.
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