The god emperor continues and the beta continue to weep into their dresses.

I said at the start of this thread that Trump was going nowhere from anything to do with Russia and back then a separate set swore blind otherwise.

I and others were right and they were wrong.....and nowhere to be seen once the writing was on the wall.

Now we have a different set.

At least Maine is entertaining.

Once again I will point out that this should be called the “Donald Trump Thread”.

Be that as it may, on reading the below story, it truly illustrates how far America has fallen under a Trump presidency.

That this would even be a topic of discussion is ridiculous, embarrassing and pathetic.

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I remember how the democrats treated McCain during his presidential run....so it's kind of amusing how they use him now.

Just be thankful I'm not president.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 May 2019 6.11pm)

To my mind, TUX, you almost always make a very valid contribution and have a suitably sensible suspicion of the powers that be. That's why I think your focus on Bitcoin makes a lot of sense. You're right about the likes of Assange too, and Snowden too at that. Unfortunately, though, Trump just offers another guise, another disguised incarnation of exactly the same crap. Someone in it for himself, offering political positions to his billionaire friends, filtering money into his coffers through whatever means to benefit him and his. He has no genuine comprehension or care for the likes of us, other than how he can utilise it to benefit himself. He's taking people for suckers.

If I lived stateside, in 2020, I'd vote for Bernie, as he's about the only person of either party with a proven history for practicing what he preaches. Not as though he'll win the nomination anyway but he's stood up to be counted when it mattered regardless of what was politically expedient, and comparatively speaking he's not in it for the money. He's consistently expressed concern for the neglected white working class, as well as being front and centre of the civil rights movement, so he doesn't fit into the cliched Hillary style 'let's reel off every minority going to the exclusion of whites' box, nor does he tick the nod nod wink wink nature of Trump's appeal to the white nationalism. He's just a decent guy doing his best for the country he loves. I'm not in perfectly alignment with him by any stretch, but to me what he stands for counts for something and is genuine and heartfelt. In politics that's a rare bird indeed. Beyond that, if I lived there all in likelihood I wouldn't bother voting for any of the parade of fools from either side of the isle.

Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 10.48pm)

Yes, there's no doubt a good argument that anyone truly thinking of Joe Public rather than their billionaire buddies never gets within 100 miles of the presidency to begin with!

The Cambridge dictionary defines "fantasist" as :-"someone who often has fantasies, or who confuses fantasy and what is real."

Strangely that seems a pretty accurate description of you, rather than of me.

I observe. I read. Then I apply common sense. Very few things that walk like ducks and quack like ducks aren't ducks. Very few innocent men find it necessary to proclaim their innocence quite as often as Trump does. They let their innocence speak for itself confident that no degree of investigation can uncover that which does not exist.

So I will remind you of that jibe when all of this is finally done and dusted. That may well be some years hence, after Trump has been voted out and his immunity from prosecution is at an end.

As I said there is a long long way to go before this particular stain on western democracy has been put in the washing machine for cleansing. As suggested by Lindsey Graham.