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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Dec 19 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So it is circumstantial always around then.
Was there a date for the release of funds.
This could be normal procedure unless the ukraine had a DD to the bank of America.
As for non appearance there may be some who wish not to appear at the Senate.
If some are democrats who have persued trump how would you see that.
Would you think there could be a reason, that being that they may not have told the truth first time around.
Even one refusal must be a light bulb moment about the whole thing being a set up.

Just another nothing burger going nowhere, which has been the characterization of the Democrats during Trump's term.

They never accepted him as president and it's going to come back to haunt them once they gain the presidency back.

Extreme polarisation is the new normal.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Dec 19 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So it is circumstantial always around then.

Circumstantial evidence is still evidence. When supported by hard evidence it adds to the case. In this case it is not required to prove things to be within a reasonable doubt although to my mind that threshold is easily achieved. However if there is a real defence then let's hear it. I haven't heard anything convincing yet.

Was there a date for the release of funds.
This could be normal procedure unless the ukraine had a DD to the bank of America.

Are you actually following these events? There was nothing normal involved. The military were about to release them and wanted to to support their allie. Until the President intervened.

As for non appearance there may be some who wish not to appear at the Senate.

There may be, but that's not the point. A case has been brought for which they have evidence either to exonerate the accused or condemn him. It's their duty to comply with the requests.

If some are democrats who have persued trump how would you see that.

I would praise them for doing their constitutional duty.

Would you think there could be a reason, that being that they may not have told the truth first time around.

I watched and listened to much of the evidence. They either told the truth or deserve Oscars. They aren't actors.

Even one refusal must be a light bulb moment about the whole thing being a set up.

If this is a set up then someone has missed their vocation. This is 100% real. Don't be fooled.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Dec 19 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Can't understand why anyone bothers entering in debate with WE, he is always right and everyone else just doesn't understand

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 24 Dec 19 7.08pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Trump will win next year's election easily.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Dec 19 7.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Can't understand why anyone bothers entering in debate with WE, he is always right and everyone else just doesn't understand

Whether anyone wishes to discuss these things with me is always a matter of choice. If they do then expect me to express my points of view with certainty and passion. If you cannot cope with that and come up with alternative arguments which provide at least a passably valid alternative then that's not my fault is it?

It must be blindingly obvious to anyone who actually followed the impeachment hearings that Trump did what he is accused of doing. There is no other reasonable conclusion based on the known facts.

Anyone who denies that is either politically motivated or delusional. I am more than willing to be proved wrong but cannot see a shred of truth in the excuses that have so far been offered in his defence.

He won't, of course, be impeached because of the state of the current Republican party who are as weak a bunch of sycophants as I have ever witnessed.

Whether this works for, or against, the Democrats is an open question due to the state of politics in the USA. However I don't think they had any choice other than to do this. Their own base would have been totally pissed off if they had given Trump a pass as it's their constitutional duty to oversee such wrongdoing by a President.

Impeachment being a political process, and not a legal one, makes it easy to understand what the outcome of the trial will be but not that of the perceptions of the swing voters who will decide whether Trump gets re-elected. Right now his approval rating is going up again so it looks as if it has backfired, but these are early days.

Putting another stain on his record, which already has a few, will provide useful ammunition later next year.

It's quite true that the Democrats have never accepted him and that's for completely good reasons. No-one with an ounce of respect for their constitution ought to accept such a man. That their system didn't weed him out long before the primaries reflects very badly on the GOP. That the "never-Trumpers" failed to stop it just shows how flawed it is. As I have said before US politics is in a bad place, even worse than our own and that's at the lowest point in my lifetime.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 24 Dec 19 7.23pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Whether anyone wishes to discuss these things with me is always a matter of choice. If they do then expect me to express my points of view with certainty and passion. If you cannot cope with that and come up with alternative arguments which provide at least a passably valid alternative then that's not my fault is it?

It must be blindingly obvious to anyone who actually followed the impeachment hearings that Trump did what he is accused of doing. There is no other reasonable conclusion based on the known facts.

Anyone who denies that is either politically motivated or delusional. I am more than willing to be proved wrong but cannot see a shred of truth in the excuses that have so far been offered in his defence.

He won't, of course, be impeached because of the state of the current Republican party who are as weak a bunch of sycophants as I have ever witnessed.

Whether this works for, or against, the Democrats is an open question due to the state of politics in the USA. However I don't think they had any choice other than to do this. Their own base would have been totally pissed off if they had given Trump a pass as it's their constitutional duty to oversee such wrongdoing by a President.

Impeachment being a political process, and not a legal one, makes it easy to understand what the outcome of the trial will be but not that of the perceptions of the swing voters who will decide whether Trump gets re-elected. Right now his approval rating is going up again so it looks as if it has backfired, but these are early days.

Putting another stain on his record, which already has a few, will provide useful ammunition later next year.

It's quite true that the Democrats have never accepted him and that's for completely good reasons. No-one with an ounce of respect for their constitution ought to accept such a man. That their system didn't weed him out long before the primaries reflects very badly on the GOP. That the "never-Trumpers" failed to stop it just shows how flawed it is. As I have said before US politics is in a bad place, even worse than our own and that's at the lowest point in my lifetime.


He has been amazing for the majority though.
Even if the benefitees are 52% and the non benefitees are 48%.
It's still a majority.
You can't please all of the people all of the time.

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 24 Dec 19 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

He has been amazing for the majority though.
Even if the benefitees are 52% and the non benefitees are 48%.
It's still a majority.
You can't please all of the people all of the time.

You do realise that 48% trumps* 52% though. No?

*pun intended

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Dec 19 11.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Can't understand why anyone bothers entering in debate with WE, he is always right and everyone else just doesn't understand

For some, with great age comes great senility....but admittedly a laudable amount of energy.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 25 Dec 19 1.23am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

For some, with great age comes great senility....but admittedly a laudable amount of energy.

Itís Christmas. Surely even you can give your personal sniping and deeply rooted ageism a rest for at least a day

And, for the record, Wisbech clearly has all of his faculties. As usual you bully people that donít agree with you.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Dec 19 2.19am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Whatever the rights and wrongs of Trumpís presidency why do people take it so personally? How has he adversely affected any of our lives? Even Maine Eagle hasnít come up with anything Trump has done which has affected him in the slightest.
Beyond hurting feelings what has he done wrong?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Dec 19 4.02am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Itís Christmas. Surely even you can give your personal sniping and deeply rooted ageism a rest for at least a day

And, for the record, Wisbech clearly has all of his faculties. As usual you bully people that donít agree with you.

It's Christmas every day since those 2016 votes Maple.

As for respect for the aged...coming from a guy who commented that he wanted a second referendum because more old leave voters would have died off.....yeah, I'll take a pass on your hypocritical lectures.....thanks.

As for 'Bullying', read mockery....for that guy anyway. I reject the notion that I bully those that don't agree with me. I treat each individual individually according to our past interactions.

You're just still smarting.

Oh and Merry Christmas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Dec 2019 4.18am)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Dec 19 4.58am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Whatever the rights and wrongs of Trumpís presidency why do people take it so personally? How has he adversely affected any of our lives? Even Maine Eagle hasnít come up with anything Trump has done which has affected him in the slightest.
Beyond hurting feelings what has he done wrong?


That's not what I've heard.

I heard it that on the quiet that Trump keeps hiding his wigs.

 

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