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Originally posted by cryrst

Black friday...
Strange it hasnt been renamed due to the fact it has a link to slavery.
It is named after the slave sales the day after Thanksgiving.
Food for thought really.

And there's was me thinking it's all a tribute to Robinson Crusoe's mate.

 

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Back when Joe Biden did his Cornpop story he also said this:

'I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. The kids used to come up and reach in the pool & rub my leg down so it was straight & watch the hair come back up again. So I learned about roaches, I learned about kids jumping on my lap and I love kids jumping on my lap'

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I don't know whether we should be laughing or starting an investigation.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

And there's was me thinking it's all a tribute to Robinson Crusoe's mate.

Did he sell him on a friday then?

 

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Deleted 02 Dec 19 1.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Record Black Friday sales in the US.....Up 22 percent.

People spending.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 2.22am)

I will fill in what you have failed to mention. Sales will likely total $7.4B, up from $7.2ish the year before. Up 2.8% in total. The 22%ish, I believe is the increase in online sales.

Again, this fits in exactly to what I have been saying. Nothing to do with Trump or Obama. Yes, tax rates have been lowered, however, some deductibles have been taken away, which means that month on month, more is earned, but when it comes to filing the tax return, quite a few people are losing out.

The key point is debt. If interests rates are kept low and there is money being printed left, right and centre, that doesn't seem like a stable economy to me.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Did he sell him on a friday then?

No, the shops were shut.

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

I will fill in what you have failed to mention. Sales will likely total .4B, up from .2ish the year before. Up 2.8% in total. The 22%ish, I believe is the increase in online sales.

Again, this fits in exactly to what I have been saying. Nothing to do with Trump or Obama. Yes, tax rates have been lowered, however, some deductibles have been taken away, which means that month on month, more is earned, but when it comes to filing the tax return, quite a few people are losing out.

The key point is debt. If interests rates are kept low and there is money being printed left, right and centre, that doesn't seem like a stable economy to me.

It's a sign of a spending economy....One Obama would be praised for if he were in power but one you find fault with under Trump.

Having said that, I agree about the problems.....But, this has been how capitalism has worked for a century and it's given us the part development you see.

Like I asked Tux....what's the solution exactly?

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 1.35pm)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's a sign of a spending economy....One Obama would be praised for if he were in power but one you find fault with under Trump.

Having said that, I agree about the problems.....But, this has been how capitalism has worked for a century and it's given us the part development you see.

Like I asked Tux....what's the solution exactly?

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 1.35pm)

I agree Obama would be praised and was, as his stats for Thanksgiving sales are roughly in line with Trump's, however, I never praised him and won't praise Trump. Since 2000 and more so since 2008, it has just been a massive experiment in trying to not let the bubble explode.

I agree, this is how capitalism works, however, little is ever done to manage the inflation of whichever bubble is created.

The solutions are very complicated, mainly because of politics. I think you and I both know what solution will be handed down to us and I don't think it will please either of us.

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

I agree Obama would be praised and was, as his stats for Thanksgiving sales are roughly in line with Trump's, however, I never praised him and won't praise Trump. Since 2000 and more so since 2008, it has just been a massive experiment in trying to not let the bubble explode.

I agree, this is how capitalism works, however, little is ever done to manage the inflation of whichever bubble is created.

The solutions are very complicated, mainly because of politics. I think you and I both know what solution will be handed down to us and I don't think it will please either of us.

Probably not.

Still....I'm only here for the biscuits.

 

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Deleted 02 Dec 19 1.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Probably not.

Still....I'm only here for the biscuits.

And I for the bants

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

And I for the bants

This is what Sanders should be focusing on during his candidacy......not on fruitcake ideas like open borders and free everything.

However, you can see that the Democrat's base have moved so far to the left that Sanders has had to move with them.

Not that I think the socialism would work anyway but I had time for some of the things the younger Sanders was saying....though as Sanders is older than Noah that's not saying much.

Perhaps he is trying to get back to that stuff.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 4.10pm)

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

I will fill in what you have failed to mention. Sales will likely total .4B, up from .2ish the year before. Up 2.8% in total. The 22%ish, I believe is the increase in online sales.

Again, this fits in exactly to what I have been saying. Nothing to do with Trump or Obama. Yes, tax rates have been lowered, however, some deductibles have been taken away, which means that month on month, more is earned, but when it comes to filing the tax return, quite a few people are losing out.

The key point is debt. If interests rates are kept low and there is money being printed left, right and centre, that doesn't seem like a stable economy to me.

Indeed. And wealth inequality is becoming more extreme. People just accept it now, with ideas of 'why bother taxing them more because they're avoid paying it anyway'. It's a valid point but also dangerous and defeatist attitude. How many families are there now where one parent is the bread winner? Whether it's Trump, Obama or some other joker at the top, it's a lie that we are or have been all riding some kind of economically buoyant wave. Most normal every day people are financially as f***ed as they've ever been if not more so.

Federal data shows that the top 1% are trillion + richer since 1989, while those in the bottom half of the wealth distribution are 0 billion poorer. Any investment of wealth they make is into sewing social division with laughably biased one tone media outlets both left and right because keeping the populous at loggerheads is an effective distraction to where people should really fix their gaze. It just winds up with hoards of angry one tone types who think being born black or born white is some kind of crowning achievement by default. That's all they hear, directly or otherwise, from their echo chambers. They're played off against each other by the very same people laughing at them, pulling their strings and making bank. Money doesn't care.


Edited by dollardays (02 Dec 2019 3.27pm)

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Probably not.

Still....I'm only here for the biscuits.

Not soggy ones I hope.

 

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