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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 25 May 20 8.30pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

need to give this a watch.

The man seems spot on with his views imo

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 May 20 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

The thing that f***s black americans over is the welfare state that the Democrats introduced and advocate rather than funding projects that would bring job prospects to the area they would rather keep them poor and relying on the government. Trump introduced jobs to these areas and gave them an opportunity to steer there own destiny and up until COVID it was working perfectly fine. Rather than critique his role in providing opportunities for their communities which has been successful they would rather build a "he looks down on you" campaign. From what I've read I think Trump has won a lot of them over not most but enough to make a difference in the upcoming election. I dont defend trump because he is a good man I think he is anything but. However his policies have been great for a lot of long suffering people dont judge a leader based on their personalities base them on results. In the 2nd world war Montgomery was apparently a massive t*** however he was one of the most successful generals who's methods of winning battles meant he saved a lot of his troops lives even if on a personal level he didnt care about them at all. There are hundreds of examples of utter c***s indirectly being everything the tolerant people claim to be without even knowing it themselves.

I think that is a complete distortion.

Obama no more introduced what could be reasonably described as a welfare state than flew to the moon. He softened the edges a little for the very disadvantaged. Nor has Trump introduced any jobs to anywhere for anyone. He has sat on top of an economic wave that was already rolling and as a consequence the job growth has followed. That he claims the credit doesn't mean he is responsible. Trump always claims the credit for anything positive but denies the responsibility for anything negative. It's what he does.

Trump has cut the taxes of his wealthy friends and is following the Republican's favourite "trickle-down" economic model. The problem is that it has never ever worked in the past, as the money invariably goes abroad, but that often takes a while to actually be seen.

Mixing entrepreneurship with protection for the really vulnerable is what the Democrats are really all about. There has to be no reward for the lazy but protection for the weak. That's the model for every successful western democracy which places people above the money god. It will arrive too in the USA. It's only a question of when.

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag dagenham 26 May 20 1.32am Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think that is a complete distortion.

Obama no more introduced what could be reasonably described as a welfare state than flew to the moon. He softened the edges a little for the very disadvantaged. Nor has Trump introduced any jobs to anywhere for anyone. He has sat on top of an economic wave that was already rolling and as a consequence the job growth has followed. That he claims the credit doesn't mean he is responsible. Trump always claims the credit for anything positive but denies the responsibility for anything negative. It's what he does.

Trump has cut the taxes of his wealthy friends and is following the Republican's favourite "trickle-down" economic model. The problem is that it has never ever worked in the past, as the money invariably goes abroad, but that often takes a while to actually be seen.

Mixing entrepreneurship with protection for the really vulnerable is what the Democrats are really all about. There has to be no reward for the lazy but protection for the weak. That's the model for every successful western democracy which places people above the money god. It will arrive too in the USA. It's only a question of when.

so the jobs that have been developed are as a result of the previous administration that after only 8 years in office took until 3 years into trump's term to show. Are you seriously trying to say that. You say mixing protection and entrepreneurship why is it that no entrepreneurship is developed in the forgotten poor states and black inner city neighborhoods and is solely kept with the already successful and offer the poor "protection" instead. The politicians and the wealthy despise him because his mere existence and entrepreneurship is a threat to the system that they have built over decades of mistreating the poor. In terms of history it has always been the Republicans that have progressed the poorer communities not the Democrats. The dems have only stifled them and kept them in line. Cutting taxes allows businesses to make more money and in term create more jobs and wealth. Businesses adapt to the taxes put on them if they pay more they hire less and pay less but they still make the same money. countries that have lower tax percentages often get more tax money because of economic freedom it's a myth that higher tax protects poorer people rich people will make the same no matter how much they pay in tax but if they pay less it allows them more wriggle room in terms of job creation it's a very simple tried and tested theory.

 

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View gazzerp's Profile gazzerp Flag Newry, Maine 26 May 20 4.10pm Send a Private Message to gazzerp Add gazzerp as a friend

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

so the jobs that have been developed are as a result of the previous administration that after only 8 years in office took until 3 years into trump's term to show. Are you seriously trying to say that. You say mixing protection and entrepreneurship why is it that no entrepreneurship is developed in the forgotten poor states and black inner city neighborhoods and is solely kept with the already successful and offer the poor "protection" instead. The politicians and the wealthy despise him because his mere existence and entrepreneurship is a threat to the system that they have built over decades of mistreating the poor. In terms of history it has always been the Republicans that have progressed the poorer communities not the Democrats. The dems have only stifled them and kept them in line. Cutting taxes allows businesses to make more money and in term create more jobs and wealth. Businesses adapt to the taxes put on them if they pay more they hire less and pay less but they still make the same money. countries that have lower tax percentages often get more tax money because of economic freedom it's a myth that higher tax protects poorer people rich people will make the same no matter how much they pay in tax but if they pay less it allows them more wriggle room in terms of job creation it's a very simple tried and tested theory.

No; I don't believe that's what was being said at all. Obama turned things around following the 2008 crash, and private sector job growth has risen straight-line steadily until Covid-19 arrived.

See attachment (data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 May 20 4.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by gazzerp

No; I don't believe that's what was being said at all. Obama turned things around following the 2008 crash, and private sector job growth has risen straight-line steadily until Covid-19 arrived.

See attachment (data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)


Yeah, watch how that statistic is going to fair between Democrat and Republican states leading up to the election.

The Democrats have TDS so bad they will sloop to any level.

All the Democrats predicted that Trump would crash the economy....Instead he improved it.

The Democrats deserve to lose and I think they will.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 May 2020 4.21pm)

 

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View Cpfc1861's Profile Cpfc1861 Flag dagenham 26 May 20 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Cpfc1861 Add Cpfc1861 as a friend

Originally posted by gazzerp

No; I don't believe that's what was being said at all. Obama turned things around following the 2008 crash, and private sector job growth has risen straight-line steadily until Covid-19 arrived.

See attachment (data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)

yeah I know that but would interested to see that state by state if Trump kept that trend going whilst improving all the forgotten midwest states that's far more impressive then straight growth just for the usually well off cities that would indicate that Trump has shared the wealth around fairer then any president.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 26 May 20 9.44pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

I wonder if George Floyd felt that the American Dream was within his reach [Link]

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 May 20 11.06pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by gazzerp

No; I don't believe that's what was being said at all. Obama turned things around following the 2008 crash, and private sector job growth has risen straight-line steadily until Covid-19 arrived.

See attachment (data from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)

Thanks.

I guess they are more likely to believe you than me.

We can but hope.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 20 7.08am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I wonder if George Floyd felt that the American Dream was within his reach [Link]


The 'American dream' has largely been a myth since the sixties.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 20 7.22am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Come on Trump, take these activist left media institutions apart.


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 27 May 20 7.39am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Come on Trump, take these activist left media institutions apart.


[Link]

One proved fake ballot makes it true news then.
Apology coming trumps way I reckon.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 May 20 8.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

One proved fake ballot makes it true news then.
Apology coming trumps way I reckon.

We shall see.

However, how likely is balance when this person is the “head of site integrity” at Twitter.

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