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They are out for Trump in every way possible and they want to take him down in a massive way because if they don't he will ruin them.
if he can get out of most of it then the Democrats and the media will be pooping themselves.
It will be fun to watch.

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Another video from Jimmy Dore destroying the 'Russia-gate' narrative.

[Link]

If there is still anybody out there who still believes in these lies watch it. All the truth about who funded what and who lied to whom is mostly out there.

This shouldn't be about left or right, it should be about a commitment to the truth.

Personally I think there are areas of attack that are legitimate with politicans and parties and that includes Trump....Most of them are corrupted by finance and elites.....indeed, they don't get to be selected without supporting that system.

However, it didn't take long to know that 'Russia-gate' was BS and there needs to be accountability over it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 3.16pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Another video from Jimmy Dore destroying the 'Russia-gate' narrative.

[Link]

If there is still anybody out there who still believes in these lies watch it. All the truth about who funded what and who lied to whom is mostly out there.

This shouldn't be about left or right, it should be about a commitment to the truth.

Personally I think there are areas of attack that are legitimate with politicans and parties and that includes Trump....Most of them are corrupted by finance and elites.....indeed, they don't get to be selected without supporting that system.

However, it didn't take long to know that 'Russia-gate' was BS and there needs to be accountability over it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 3.16pm)

Jimmy Dore starts by repeating the same bs that I discredited the last time you went off on this track. We don't know the full picture. Not yet, and perhaps never. Most though is from Aaron Mate, a Canadian journalist who is obsessed with trying to disprove Trump's connections to Russian help in winning the 2016 election. Such people exist. When there is a thirst for misinformation, and money or fame to be made, someone will always take advantage.

Totally the opposite is true. How anyone can not believe that Trump was assisted by Russia is beyond belief. Russia-gate is a slur concocted by people like Mr Mate.

The truth is though obviously the most important thing, but much of it is there, in plain view for those with eyes that want to see and the intelligence to interpret events correctly.

Mueller knows it. He dropped more than enough hints when he refused to exonerate Trump. Associates of Trump went to jail because of it. Circumstantial evidence supports it. The security services know it.

This duck is quacking so loudly, it's impossible to believe it isn't a duck.

That some still believe it's a white peace dove sent to save the world is very disturbing.

Trump was not only a terrible President. He was, and still is, an awful human being who would not have blinked an eye at the offer of support from the US's biggest enemy. He has no integrity at all.

As Steele himself said, not everything is any report, of the nature of his on Trump, will prove to be accurate. Sources can lie, and you anticipate that. What is done though is to build a picture. It's like a jig-saw in which some pieces look like an ocean, but the mountain behind can still be clearly seen.

 

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Anyone reading WE on this who hasn't already watched the videos, I say watch Jimmy Dore on Russia-gate then compare it to WE's commentary.

Dore is the guy who spat in Alex Jones's face, he's very much on the left.

And Dore does not like Trump one bit....but he's honest and he's against the elites whether they sit with the Democrats or Republicans.

And the elites hate anyone from any party who threatens them....it's why they hated Trump and loved Clinton.

But it's all the same, they will support anyone who supports them, which is why Trump quickly changed from an anti elite 'American carnage' first term president to the milk toast suck up second term one.

Hell, it's not about Trump, he's the past....it's about liars being held accountable for lies and not being rewarded for them.

The Russia gate lie damaged international relations and robbed the American tax payer of way over ten million dollars.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 10.59pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyone reading WE on this who hasn't already watched the videos, I say watch Jimmy Dore on Russia-gate then compare it to WE's commentary.

Dore is the guy who spat in Alex Jones's face, he's very much on the left.

And Dore does not like Trump one bit....but he's honest and he's against the elites whether they sit with the Democrats or Republicans.

And the elites hate anyone from any party who threatens them....it's why they hated Trump and loved Clinton.

But it's all the same, they will support anyone who supports them, which is why Trump quickly changed from an anti elite 'American carnage' first term president to the milk toast suck up second term one.

Hell, it's not about Trump, he's the past....it's about liars being held accountable for lies and not being rewarded for them.

The Russia gate lie damaged international relations and robbed the American tax payer of way over ten million dollars.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 10.59pm)

Cue the ppe and 47 billion post

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 21 10.12am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anyone reading WE on this who hasn't already watched the videos, I say watch Jimmy Dore on Russia-gate then compare it to WE's commentary.

Dore is the guy who spat in Alex Jones's face, he's very much on the left.

And Dore does not like Trump one bit....but he's honest and he's against the elites whether they sit with the Democrats or Republicans.

And the elites hate anyone from any party who threatens them....it's why they hated Trump and loved Clinton.

But it's all the same, they will support anyone who supports them, which is why Trump quickly changed from an anti elite 'American carnage' first term president to the milk toast suck up second term one.

Hell, it's not about Trump, he's the past....it's about liars being held accountable for lies and not being rewarded for them.

The Russia gate lie damaged international relations and robbed the American tax payer of way over ten million dollars.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Nov 2021 10.59pm)

By all means watch Jimmy Dore, but before you do get to know something about him. He is not someone I am familiar with, so I did a little research. Odd, would be something of an understatement. He seems to love controversy and taking up positions, not many of which turn out to be accurate. Bear that in mind when reviewing his contribution to this matter. Just remember he is an entertainer, rewarded on viewing figures. Controversy pays.

No-one argues that someone who has maliciously provided false information should not be held accountable. However, I hope the truth will be determined "in camera". Sources need to be protected, and sometimes cut-outs required to obscure who they are. This is especially important when dealing with Putin, who is brutal when dealing with anyone who briefs against him, as we all know.

In any event, this was only one part of the Steele report, and the Steele report itself was only providing corroboratory evidence to what the security services in the 5 eyes already knew. The Steele report was political, designed to influence the public. That's true, but it was wise to do so, to try to inform the electorate of what was on offer. Once though the scale of the problem was known, it was shared with the security forces. Mueller was a reaction to that. A reaction which is still quietly reverberating.

So there is a great deal more here than just one potentially tainted source. This is a castle built on solid ground, which a few buckets of mud isn't going to knock down.

By the way, Trump wasn't a second term President of any kind! Thankfully.

Of course, it's "Russiagate" itself, and not any lies about it, which has damaged international relations. I cannot think of any countries, Russia and North Korea excepted, who would welcome Trump back again. You could almost hear the collective sigh of relief around the world when he lost.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

By all means watch Jimmy Dore, but before you do get to know something about him. He is not someone I am familiar with, so I did a little research. Odd, would be something of an understatement. He seems to love controversy and taking up positions, not many of which turn out to be accurate. Bear that in mind when reviewing his contribution to this matter. Just remember he is an entertainer, rewarded on viewing figures. Controversy pays.

No-one argues that someone who has maliciously provided false information should not be held accountable. However, I hope the truth will be determined "in camera". Sources need to be protected, and sometimes cut-outs required to obscure who they are. This is especially important when dealing with Putin, who is brutal when dealing with anyone who briefs against him, as we all know.

In any event, this was only one part of the Steele report, and the Steele report itself was only providing corroboratory evidence to what the security services in the 5 eyes already knew. The Steele report was political, designed to influence the public. That's true, but it was wise to do so, to try to inform the electorate of what was on offer. Once though the scale of the problem was known, it was shared with the security forces. Mueller was a reaction to that. A reaction which is still quietly reverberating.

So there is a great deal more here than just one potentially tainted source. This is a castle built on solid ground, which a few buckets of mud isn't going to knock down.

By the way, Trump wasn't a second term President of any kind! Thankfully.

Of course, it's "Russiagate" itself, and not any lies about it, which has damaged international relations. I cannot think of any countries, Russia and North Korea excepted, who would welcome Trump back again. You could almost hear the collective sigh of relief around the world when he lost.

You have a bit in common then just in your first paragraph.
Strange how you don't idolise someone so similar.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Nov 21 8.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You have a bit in common then just in your first paragraph.
Strange how you don't idolise someone so similar.

I expected that when I wrote it. I am only surprised it took so long.

The difference is, I don't have any financial incentive to be controversial. Doubtless you think I am, just for its own sake, but I assure you my opinions are sincere, and the positions I take are much more often proved right. Not that I expect too many here to accept that. Just look at Brexit!

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I expected that when I wrote it. I am only surprised it took so long.

The difference is, I don't have any financial incentive to be controversial. Doubtless you think I am, just for its own sake, but I assure you my opinions are sincere, and the positions I take are much more often proved right. Not that I expect too many here to accept that. Just look at Brexit!

How are your views on brexit correct. Its less than a year old!
The amount of pats you give yourself your arms must be dislocated.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

How are your views on brexit correct. Its less than a year old!
The amount of pats you give yourself your arms must be dislocated.

The direction of travel is clear. The broken promises obvious.

All were forecast. Nothing wrong yet. Nothing right from the Brexiteers. It's still only jam tomorrow from them.

You keep believing if you want to, but I predict the pool of people who agree with you will dry up fast and just become a nasty, stinky pool with only the dregs left.

Those who cling to the belief that Brexit will "work out fine, just be patient" remind me of the captain on the Titanic, crying "it was only a little iceberg" as his ship went down.

Brexit was a huge iceberg, with so much unseen by the Brexiteers it beggars belief.

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The direction of travel is clear. The broken promises obvious.

All were forecast. Nothing wrong yet. Nothing right from the Brexiteers. It's still only jam tomorrow from them.

You keep believing if you want to, but I predict the pool of people who agree with you will dry up fast and just become a nasty, stinky pool with only the dregs left.

Those who cling to the belief that Brexit will "work out fine, just be patient" remind me of the captain on the Titanic, crying "it was only a little iceberg" as his ship went down.

Brexit was a huge iceberg, with so much unseen by the Brexiteers it beggars belief.

Brexit is doing great. Only blinkered old Remoaners want to complain endlessly about everything. Most people will just adapt to the new landscape.

Oh, wait. Isn't that the sort of advice you give others about mass immigration? A process that will be far more destructive to Britain than Brexit could ever be.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Nov 2021 9.46pm)

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Brexit is doing great. Only blinkered old Remoaners want to complain endlessly about everything. Most people will just adapt to the new landscape.

Oh, wait. Isn't that the sort of advice you give others about mass immigration? A process that will be far more destructive to Britain than Brexit could ever be.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (25 Nov 2021 9.46pm)

Brexit isn't great. It's a disaster. We will adapt because we have no other choice, but that can never disguise the stupidity.

Our children and grandchildren are already mad with us. Your legacy will be that they won't forgive you for ruining their future, and I don't blame them. People over 60 should have been denied a vote!!!!!

I don't recall giving any advice about mass immigration. If it ever happens, I might.

 

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