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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 02 Dec 21 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I've been watching quite a lot of Russell Brand recently. I'd say he was on what I'd call the dissident left or libertarian left. It's leftism that I regard as truthful and well meaning....like all libertarianism I suppose.

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While there are obviously areas of disagreement with someone like me, who is on the dissident right it's remarkable just how many things that I find myself actually agreeing with.

For example in this video Brand deals with Trump and how the elites in both right and left mainstreams dealt with him. His criticisms of Trump seem far more reasonable and sensible to me as is his commentary on the wider discourse and manipulation around him.

I think figures like Brand are essential if my rather depressing predictions for the future are going to be avoided. I don't think it will be but he's a good and intelligent guy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2021 2.45pm)

 


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W12 02 Dec 21 2.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've been watching quite a lot of Russell Brand recently. I'd say he was on what I'd call the dissident left or libertarian left. It's leftism that I regard as truthful and well meaning....like all libertarianism I suppose.

[Link]

While there are obviously areas of disagreement with someone like me, who is on the dissident right it's remarkable just how many things that I find myself actually agreeing with.

For example in this video Brand deals with Trump and how the elites in both right and left mainstreams dealt with him. His criticisms of Trump seem far more reasonable and sensible to me as is his commentary on the wider discourse and manipulation around him.

I think figures like Brand are essential if my rather depressing predictions for the future are going to be avoided. I don't think it will be but he's a good and intelligent guy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2021 2.45pm)

As more people are alerted to a real sense of personal threat we'll see more of this which is good in a way. I doubt it will be out of any moral or personal courage though.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 02 Dec 21 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by W12

As more people are alerted to a real sense of personal threat we'll see more of this which is good in a way. I doubt it will be out of any moral or personal courage though.

I agree, I think as things get more polarized over here, there will be more calls to find common ground. Sometimes as a method of gate-keeping the right but also from those with genuine intent.

I could be wrong obviously but I think Brand is genuine....insomuch as he really isn't a fan of how the systems work neither.

 


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W12 02 Dec 21 3.15pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree, I think as things get more polarized over here, there will be more calls to find common ground. Sometimes as a method of gate-keeping the right but also from those with genuine intent.

I could be wrong obviously but I think Brand is genuine....insomuch as he really isn't a fan of how the systems work neither.

Any genuinely left leaning person i.e. (one who's primary concern is fairness) who is remotely aware of how the world works would be the same. Just most of them still don't understand they are propping up the very system they think they are apposing. They are taught by this very same system that their primary enemy is white working class people. What a joke.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Dec 21 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Did anyone else watch Channel 4ís The Cult of Conspiracy: QAnon this evening?

If not, I urge you to on Channel 4's catch up.

It's seriously scary and although not directly focussed on Trump, it has very obvious and relevant connections. Roger Stone and Mike Flynn feature a lot.

As it also has some extremely important messages on what is happening on the fringes of political thinking here in the UK.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Dec 21 6.04am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did anyone else watch Channel 4ís The Cult of Conspiracy: QAnon this evening?

If not, I urge you to on Channel 4's catch up.

It's seriously scary and although not directly focussed on Trump, it has very obvious and relevant connections. Roger Stone and Mike Flynn feature a lot.

As it also has some extremely important messages on what is happening on the fringes of political thinking here in the UK.

Once the antifa one comes out I may do as that could be as bad.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 21 8.13am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Once the antifa one comes out I may do as that could be as bad.

I'd watch that too. Exposing extremism, and the reasons why it happens, is important to understand.

In the meantime, this IS available. It is well worth watching, whatever your political view might be.

That something like this happened, and is still happening, is barely credible. It cannot be ignored.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 21 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

When your most loyal supporters start dishing the dirt, you know something is wrong. Mark Meadow's book has already revealed Trump ignored a positive Covid test, so he didn't have to miss a debate with Biden. Now this:-

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What on earth will Bill Barr have to say on Mueller?

With the C4 documentary last night seeming to suggest that Trump may well be passed over in favour of Mike Flynn for 2024 it's looking like his time in the spotlight is nearing an end. Maybe his time in the dock will keep it on him, though.

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I'd watch that too. Exposing extremism, and the reasons why it happens, is important to understand.

In the meantime, this IS available. It is well worth watching, whatever your political view might be.

That something like this happened, and is still happening, is barely credible. It cannot be ignored.

Yet another thing you're wrong about.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 Dec 21 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yet another thing you're wrong about.

If you think the influences which are polluting US politics, and leaching across the Atlantic onto our shores, can be ignored, then I am glad you don't run the security forces.

People are being encouraged to believe lies. That cannot be ignored.

Along with watching the C4 documentary on Qanon please read this:-

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This is serious, and it cannot be ignored, whatever your political beliefs might be. When democracy itself is under threat, then we need to all come together to defend it.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Dec 2021 12.45pm)

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you think the influences which are polluting US politics, and leaching across the Atlantic onto our shores, can be ignored, then I am glad you don't run the security forces.

People are being encouraged to believe lies. That cannot be ignored.

Along with watching the C4 documentary on Qanon please read this:-

[Link]

This is serious, and it cannot be ignored, whatever your political beliefs might be. When democracy itself is under threat, then we need to all come together to defend it.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Dec 2021 12.45pm)

People have been encouraged to believe lies since communicating ideas began. You are literally the breathing evidence.

As for 'The Atlantic'....?

Such required reading for 'one nation conservatives'.

No I won't watch your leftist propaganda programme......I know all I need to about Qanon.....As you wrote on here that the Democrats and BLM/Antifa don't work together I find your obsessions with your political opponents almost simplistic.

 


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Antifa/BLM are the witless stooges, the footsoldiers of the Deep State.

and they get little reward back for all their fighting.

Trump was correct to identify the Media as being the real problem.

 


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