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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jul 17 10.07am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I try not to attack people for things they can't help. And it annoys me when others do that. It looks like simple bullying to me. When I see it I call it out, I don't go looking for it.

My point all along is your laissez faire attitude works for those that can defend themselves but how do you block off attacks on those that can't defend themselves early enough to prevent damage.

Sounds like an honourable attitude.

I don't think it should extend to protecting people from opinions that upset them though. I'm not sure that it helps.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Jul 17 10.09am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


And by the way, you missed out a 'where'.

Edited by Mapletree (31 Jul 2017 10.06am)

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 31 Jul 17 10.13am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Absolutely struggling to understand this. Why?

From personal experience I haven't heard of one footballer I've played with being gay, and I've played football with lots of players. We would've known or they would've come out and we would've known.

The few I've met/known/known of have no care for football and they don't fit in with the typical stereotypes either.

If there are gay professional footballers in the top leagues then the rumour would be out there. There aren't any rumours around of anyone. There was with Sol Campbell. Didn't he get married? There's a rumour about a player we signed. I have a guess who it might be but my gaydar is poor.

 


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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Jul 17 10.34am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

From personal experience I haven't heard of one footballer I've played with being gay, and I've played football with lots of players. We would've known or they would've come out and we would've known.

The few I've met/known/known of have no care for football and they don't fit in with the typical stereotypes either.

If there are gay professional footballers in the top leagues then the rumour would be out there. There aren't any rumours around of anyone. There was with Sol Campbell. Didn't he get married? There's a rumour about a player we signed. I have a guess who it might be but my gaydar is poor.

I'm with Rudi and Becky on this one too.

There are a number of gay men and women that work in the office where I am (in Hove as it happens) both past a present, and not one of them has shown any interest whatsoever in football, either as a participation sport or to view. I've played in numerous teams over the years ranging from junior, to pub, to fair level that involves money being paid (not enough to qualify as semi-professional though) and I am not aware of ANY gay players, or indeed supporters.

Proportionately it seems that football does not have the oft-quoted overall percentage of the population involved in it.

However, the arts, music, film, advertising, cabin crew people that I have met, acquainted, seen, spoken to etc appear to be extremely well represented in the statistical sense, if not more so.

We can go around in circles all day about why this may be, but a bit of perspective should be maintained about the perniciousness of this homophobic environment that exists at Palace.

 


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Originally posted by mezzer

I'm with Rudi and Becky on this one too.

There are a number of gay men and women that work in the office where I am (in Hove as it happens) both past a present, and not one of them has shown any interest whatsoever in football, either as a participation sport or to view. I've played in numerous teams over the years ranging from junior, to pub, to fair level that involves money being paid (not enough to qualify as semi-professional though) and I am not aware of ANY gay players, or indeed supporters.

Proportionately it seems that football does not have the oft-quoted overall percentage of the population involved in it.

However, the arts, music, film, advertising, cabin crew people that I have met, acquainted, seen, spoken to etc appear to be extremely well represented in the statistical sense, if not more so.

We can go around in circles all day about why this may be, but a bit of perspective should be maintained about the perniciousness of this homophobic environment that exists at Palace.

Environment or microcosm?

 


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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Jul 17 3.17pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

I thought microcosm was one big word too far

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 31 Jul 17 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

I thought microcosm was one big word too far

Yes he should be removed from the site. Mods, are you going to remove him? (In comes Sting with his pool cue)

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 31 Jul 17 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Yes he should be removed from the site. Mods, are you going to remove him?

I think that it's shocking that you should be suggesting that people be removed from the site.

Mods. Don't you think he should be removed for suggesting it?

 

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View Southampton_Eagle's Profile Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 31 Jul 17 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ParchmoreEagle

Very good post. This is about small fish being bullied by bigger fish with even bigger egos. That's what I find offensive about these GT threads. It really is about him and not homophobia. That's what got my goat up. It's 2017 and we've all been living and working and playing with gays for most of our lives and Palace people have no problems with it. GT is a man that craves the limelight - his star has fallen, and this seems a great way to get back in with the celebs. Good on him for that - but we won't be mugged.

You won't be missed.

 

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Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

I'm glad they are both gone.

We don't need hate preachers like that in this forum.

Totally agree.

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Many expressed their annoyance in general terms that certain people had been less than politically correct but one poster in particular threw his toys out of the pram yesterday because no-one had been banned and it's sad if mods bow to pressure from someone who obviously doesn't believe in freedom of speech


Freedom of speech?

Spouting bile and being called up on it is no different than being a malicious bully and passing it off as banter.

 

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Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

Totally agree.

Yeah, that's all we need, you coming on here enjoying a censorship 'victory'.

Well done, I hope you are proud of yourself.

Maybe the same will happen to you one day but hopefully your opponents will have more class.

 


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