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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 12.16am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well, I agree that using this kind of stuff as scaremongering is daft with regard to marches.

It's a little different when we are talking about her majesty's opposition.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Nov 2017 11.42pm)

Republicans?

 

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 5.33am

Originally posted by legaleagle

I see you haven't read Jamie's post pinned to the top of General Talk either.I won't descend to your level.

Your post,I would humbly submit, says somewhat more about you (and your knowledge or lack thereof) and demonstrates how little you know about racism and anti semitism in Poland in the present day. Or the war:look up Jedwabne. Or when the surviving Jews returned after the war and tried to reclaim their property stolen by locals:Look up kielce pogrom.

Last weekend's march was organised by a committee of far right-wing groups, its sponsors included one faction, known by its Polish acronym, ONR, with radical fascist roots going back to the 1930s, and deeply influenced by Nazism; another, known as All-Polish Youth, has its own fascist history. Both were known before and during World War II for their violence against Jews, including massacres in the case of ONR.

Meanwhile, Poland’s state television network, TVP, which is under the governing Law and Justice party’s control, described the event as a “great march of patriots” that drew mostly mainstream Poles, even as a demonstrator interviewed by TVP said he was on the march to “remove Jewry from power.”The irony being the pre-war Jewish population of 3 million is down to an estimated c 7,000

Yes,brave Poles fought in the RAF and the army in WW2 (I used to go out with the daughter of one!) and some good folk helped Jews in Poland in the wear and POles suffered awfully under the Nazis.But,that's no excuse for the pervasive anti-semitism there that along with other naff related traits has reared its ugly head as acceptable discourse since the ironically named Law and Justice party came to power.A University of Warsaw study released earlier this year concluded that 56 percent said they would not accept a Jewish person in their family.Very noble and anti extremism of all sorts..not.

Got any Polish family to base your "knowledge" on? I have...

Are you thinking you will be banged to rights for something naughty in the near future that you will need a lawyer for,then? Hope its not connected to the FLA.

Edited by legaleagle (15 Nov 2017 7.57pm)

Firstly,I asked you a question because of your Polish connection and I'll again. Legaleagle MOVISZ PO POLSKU? TAk O NIE.
Secondly, stop slandering Polish people with your warped mindset and read about the thee real culprits of anti Semitism in Poland I.e. the Communist party.
Ethnic Relations.After 1939, due to the Soviet and German genocides, changes in the country's boundaries, migration, and the expulsion of ethnic peoples by the Communist government of Poland, the country became an almost monoethnic society. Current estimates of the combined non-Polish ethnic populations range between less than one million to more than two million, or between 2 and 5.5 percent of the country's inhabitants.
Some fifteen ethnic groups are numerous enough to be recognized and to appear in statistics. The Germans, Belarussians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, and Jews have states where members of their nationality are the majority and can be appealed to for political help.

The earliest record of a Jew in Poland is in a letter written in 977C.E.from the Pope instructing the king not to be overly friendly to a Jew. The first ghetto in Poland was created in the fourteenth century when Jews from Spain and Western Europe immigrated and asked for a sector of the city where they could live according to their religion and laws. The request was granted by King Kazimierz III. Until the beginning of the seventeenth century, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was tolerant toward the Jews and even invited them to come and settle. The relationship deteriorated as the fortunes of the Commonwealth declined, and there was a massive immigration of Jews from Germany, and later, from Lithuania and Russia. Relations were exacerbated by the Russian czarist policy of discrimination against Jews and stirring up ethnic antagonisms. The first organized anti-semiticpogrom was in 1881. The last one was on 4 July 1946 in Kielce when forty-two Jews were killed. During World War II, the Soviet Union deported people to central Asia and the Nazis operated death camps. Of the more than three million Jews in Poland in 1939, ninety thousand were left by the end of the war. The communist government-sponsored anti-semitic campaign of 1968–1969 drove out most of those who remained.

Prior to 1989, the Communist government at times denied the very existence of national minorities in Poland.
Dobranoc! i Dziekuje

Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 5.53am)

Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 5.53am)

 

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 6.26am

Originally posted by legaleagle

I based my view on TR himself.My view was based on TR's own Twitter post,which I quoted on this thread earlier this week. "I have had an amazing time with polish patriots marching against Islam . Polish pride is something else." Did you read it?

Funny that his opposition to all kinds of extremism doesn't seem to include the following openly on display at the march:

One banner read: “White Europe of brotherly nations,” while upon another was written: “Pray for Islamic Holocaust.” Chants of “pure Poland, white Poland” and "refugees get out” were reported and others waved flags adorned with far-right insignia.One participant told the state-run TVP he was marching “to remove Jewry from power.” Opposition to extremism in action indeed.

You seem to be the one on here who's the most extremist. You are certainly polonophobic and clearly suffer from polonophobia bordering on xenophobic.

Funny your opposition to communist anti Semitism is non existent


Edited by legaleagle (15 Nov 2017 9.12pm)

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 7.25am

The FLA has repeatedly stated that its against all forms of extremism.
This includes the slandering of character of an entire nation.

While Europe was experiencing religious wars Poland (as a multinational country) also had many conflicts, wars but they were never provoked by religion.
Poland could actually be seen, according to Jan Drewnowski a professor of Polish University in London as a kind of pioneer of tolerance. Even in medieval times Jews found religious tolerance and economic opportunity in Poland.

The Poles have lost their country and been persecuted as a people up until 1989.
This will no doubt have an effect on some of it's peoples views on foreign invasion including Islam.

People who spout extremist views on this thread is everything we are against. The inability to see past their own blinkered thought process and constantly posting vile invalidations about certain societies without even recognizing any counter arguments are the people society should fear the most.
Or at the very least laughed at

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 8.17am

Originally posted by Park Road

The FLA has repeatedly stated that its against all forms of extremism.
This includes the slandering of character of an entire nation.

While Europe was experiencing religious wars Poland (as a multinational country) also had many conflicts, wars but they were never provoked by religion.
Poland could actually be seen, according to Jan Drewnowski a professor of Polish University in London as a kind of pioneer of tolerance. Even in medieval times Jews found religious tolerance and economic opportunity in Poland.

The Poles have lost their country and been persecuted as a people up until 1989.
This will no doubt have an effect on some of it's peoples views on foreign invasion including Islam.

People who spout extremist views on this thread is everything we are against. The inability to see past their own blinkered thought process and constantly posting vile invalidations about certain societies without even recognizing any counter arguments are the people society should fear the most.
Or at the very least laughed at

Is that why you said Tommy Robinson is misunderstood to avail him of your charge.

 

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 8.33am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is that why you said Tommy Robinson is misunderstood to avail him of your charge.

Nick you accused me of stalking you yet you keep replying to my post weird behaviour to say the least.

Normally, people tend to stay away from stalkers

Can you be so nice as to point out when and where I said that.

If you can I'll hold my hands up and say fair cop.
If not can you please refrain from falsely accusing me and stop replying to my threads.
However, if you managed to obtain a grasp of adult wit and not your normal playground jibes then that I'll accept. I'm always up for giggle.

So prove that I said that or make like a tree and leave.

You'll probably appreciate my childish comic end to my thread its more down your street

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 8.37am

Originally posted by Park Road

Nick you accused me of stalking you yet you keep replying to my post weird behaviour to say the least.

Normally, people tend to stay away from stalkers

Can you be so nice as to point out when and where I said that.

If you can I'll hold my hands up and say fair cop.
If not can you please refrain from falsely accusing me and stop replying to my threads.
However, if you managed to obtain a grasp of adult wit and not your normal playground jibes then that I'll accept. I'm always up for giggle.

So prove that I said that or make like a tree and leave.

You'll probably appreciate my childish comic end to my thread its more down your street

my apologies, it was Rubin. Dunno what the rest of your post is about though.

 

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 8.41am

Originally posted by nickgusset

my apologies, it was Rubin. Dunno what the rest of your post is about though.



Fair enough I'll accept that and admire when people can admit their errors.

I also understand why you dunno what the rest of the post is about.
So don't worry your little cotton socks about it

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 16 Nov 17 8.50am

All this stuff by the left is a well worn tactic of lumping in on anything they do not own and tarring it it as the coming of the 4th Reich. It is like those speaking dolls - they should make some dressed in Corbyn caps with their arm raised in a clenched-fist salute and when you press their nether regions, they would shout 'fascist' or 'racist'. When do we want them? By Christmas!

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 9.17am

Originally posted by Park Road

See what I mean about childish tactics Danny Choo Choo.
Edited by Park Road (30 Oct 2017 1.38pm)

Stalker #3

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Originally posted by nickgusset
Stalker #3
Oh Nick you're hilarious. Thanks for making an otherwise mundane Monday delightfully amusing.

Remember this Nick you called me stalker#3. Now do you understand the rest of my posting?

Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 9.19am)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 17 9.38am

Originally posted by Park Road

Originally posted by Park Road

See what I mean about childish tactics Danny Choo Choo.
Edited by Park Road (30 Oct 2017 1.38pm)

Stalker #3

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Originally posted by nickgusset
Stalker #3
Oh Nick you're hilarious. Thanks for making an otherwise mundane Monday delightfully amusing.

Remember this Nick you called me stalker#3. Now do you understand the rest of my posting?

Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 9.19am)

I don't think you understand the new world order according to Jamie Martin.

 

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Park Road Flag 16 Nov 17 10.00am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I don't think you understand the new world order according to Jamie Martin.

The question was " now do you understand the rest of my posting?" If I broke any rules I'm sure Jamie will pull me up on it.
Even after your two attempts at mentioning it.
You wouldn't be trying to get the mods to card me by any chance Nick bit sneaky mate
Anyway, you said I was stalker#3 so answer the question doyou understand my post now?if you can thanks.

Edited by Park Road (16 Nov 2017 10.01am)

 

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