Is Capitalism Broken?
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 23 Oct 17 11.51am |
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Seen this idea gaining traction in parts of the msn. Something needs to change, the mood of the country suggests this. Thoughts. A request, try and wait more than 2 posts before typing, well it's better than the millions dead under socialism dead cat. Or not bother at all.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Oct 17 11.51am |
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No.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 23 Oct 17 12.07pm |
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when the long-term unemployed are living in larger homes, driving nicer cars, having more kids, enjoying more leisure time and living longer......than many working people, it would be a massive warning sign.
Feudalism, monstrous. Gengis Khan's genetic legacy to the world for example. Socialism/communism , consistently failed. Theocracy , failed and monstrous. Saudi Arabia to name one. Spain under Franco to name another. totalitarianism , monstrous. Mercantilism, odious - look at the opium wars. democracy, weak lilly livered and powerless. all systems corrupt and fail. Capitalism is no different. Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Oct 2017 1.45pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Oct 17 12.24pm |
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Yawn. More attention seeking.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 23 Oct 17 12.26pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Seen this idea gaining traction in parts of the msn. Something needs to change, the mood of the country suggests this. Thoughts. A request, try and wait more than 2 posts before typing, well it's better than the millions dead under socialism dead cat. Or not bother at all. How can you ignore it? It is one of biggest elephants in the room as far as socialism in concerned.
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Park Road  23 Oct 17 12.55pm |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Oct 17 1.01pm |
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Yes, it is. All systems are inherently flawed, and continuing failures to mitigate the extremes of capitalism have for the last two centuries resulted in massive problems, especially for the working classes and poorer members of society (including the rise of Communism and Fascism - both responses to the inherent unfairness within systems of capital).
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Oct 17 1.03pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Yes, it is. All systems are inherently flawed, and continuing failures to mitigate the extremes of capitalism have for the last two centuries resulted in massive problems, especially for the working classes and poorer members of society (including the rise of Communism and Fascism - both responses to the inherent unfairness within systems of capital). As has been said many times. Capitalism is an extension of human nature and any system that replaced it would become the same.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Oct 17 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
How can you ignore it? It is one of biggest elephants in the room as far as socialism in concerned. How many people die as a result of capitalism, the inequality of poverty, preventable disease for which the medication is too expensive. Whilst I'm not going to defend the death of millions under the regimes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin et al. Its also important to remember that the failures of capitalism and captialists to respond to the extremes and inequalities of capitalism, were entirely the basis for the works of Marx and Engels.
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| Park Road 23 Oct 17 1.05pm |
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I'm paraphrasing but for me it hits the nail on the head.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 23 Oct 17 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As has been said many times. Capitalism is an extension of human nature and any system that replaced it would become the same. Except of course it isn't. Like all systems of economics, it has a relationship to human behaviour. Capitalism, really didn't even exist as a major concept until Adam Smith. Its no more an extension of human nature, than anything else is. Its just a model of human behaviour - and even in economics, financial incentives are only one system of influencing behaviour (Moral/Ethical and Social incentives are far more effective). Only very dangerous people, or foolish people, think they know what human nature is.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 23 Oct 17 1.17pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Except of course it isn't. Like all systems of economics, it has a relationship to human behaviour. Capitalism, really didn't even exist as a major concept until Adam Smith. Its no more an extension of human nature, than anything else is. Its just a model of human behaviour - and even in economics, financial incentives are only one system of influencing behaviour (Moral/Ethical and Social incentives are far more effective). Only very dangerous people, or foolish people, think they know what human nature is. Don't go all Sartre on me. Human behaviour and nature cannot be seperated so easily. That is just an illusion. A conceit. It is fair to say that human nature is complex and adaptable but the principle of survival of the fittest or more accurately, the fittest genes, is the ultimate goal.
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