I'm not sure the Pol Pot started politics again. They just moved from politics to killing anyone who might vaguely hold political thoughts.

I don't vote anymore, I am totally disillusioned by politics.

It seems every factor and issue of daily life has to center around a dividing line and whether you take a left or right wing view on it.

Well i'm not right or left, i'm neither and I think most people are the same, it's only the politicians that carry on with the class divide pantomime and the few morons that still buy into these ideologies.

When it comes to Leaving the EU or whether we need a high speed rail line or changing certain laws etc, I would like to see a group of intelligent people with no political leaning, get together, agree and do what's best for Britain. instead we have a bunch of egotistical, lying maniacs who only ever take opposing views and do their utmost to slag eachother off where the argument always goes back to the rich or poor in society. They don't represent us they only represent themselves and a vision of Britain from 40-50 years ago, it's boring.

They should scrap the whole political system and start again

Edited by Pussay Patrol (01 Nov 2017 2.31pm)

This and this.

Voting, when nothing ever changes, is pointless.

Well, millions of others get a say as well.

I'm truly happy for them. They must be so pleased at how life has worked out.

Ditto.

My parents were both conservative (small "c" and thus Tory voters. I was too, as that's what I grew up hearing. My parents were the generation in their respective families who moved from being lower class to middle class although, looking back, my old man owning a shop - but not the building it was in - and working 6 1/2 days a week hardly seems a step up from working class.

In the mid-80s, when Thatcher's (and Lawson's) fiscal policy caused inflation to spiral upwards, their solution was to jack up interest rates to kill inflation. It worked, but only because anyone with a credit card, mortgage, small business loan or...importantly for my Mum and Dad...all three, got slaughtered. Inflation cooled because everyone was giving their hard earned money to the banks and had nothing left to spend on anything else.

My parents had to sell their house and move in above the shop, and had to make that work for a lot longer than expected because all their retirement plans were torpedoed. They lived out a shorter-than-planned retirement (because they worked longer than planned) in less comfortable circumstances on limited funds until they both passed. Not destitute, but they never travelled like they'd planned, just hung out with their friends at the Conservative Club.

Watching how the choice of government could completely decimate the finances of real people made me realise that I needed to pay attention to politics. Paying attention to politics made me realise how full of s*** it all is, but that the Tories (and now Republicans) are more full of s*** than most and have no intention of serving the people beyond the absolute bare minimum that is required to get elected.

Once I moved to the U.S., even though I was a converted Tory into - probably a new Labour sort of centrist - I became a librul, commie, socialist, facist; so far to the right are politics skewed over here.

When the Republicans and New Labour convinced the world that we needed to invade Iraq, I realised that they can do worse things to families than hijack their savings.

Edited by Ray in Houston (01 Nov 2017 7.33pm)