I mentioned it above - many, many pages ago - so I'll repeat it here: the deduction should be any points gained by the deception, plus 1. That way, teams will lose their ill-gotten gains and suffer an additional penalty, while this system still punishes teams even if they end up losing anyway as they'll still lose the extra point.

It sucks that, if in force already, we would still have got only 1 point instead of 3, but it's a much more gnarly issue to be adding "unearned" points to a team's total than it is to punish the offending team with a points deduction.

So, in the case of the Everton game, we still would be on 8 points right now, but Everton would be on 9 points instead of 12.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

its a tough gig going on an opponents site, `we hate/disrespect you` ad-infinitum but for the record if you can be bothered. i hate cheats, most evertonians do. Tim Cahill got a Newcastle player sent off with theatrics about 12 years ago. after that i couldnt care less about him.also, some of you seem to think fouling didnt exist til we turned up last week, moaning about Zaha (great player, wish he was ours) being fouled. good job you havent got Hazard, you`d all probably choke on your own rage

Totally understand why the ref gave it, but can also totally understand why he's since been banned.

What I don't understand is why you're here and what your point is.

£140m spent in the summer and your choking on your rage over your third choice striker being banned.

Enjoy life under Big Sam, apparently he's digging his heals in for a heft pay day and two year contract. How Everton are hitting the big time...

Edited by Goldfiinger (27 Nov 2017 9.01pm)

At what point was Mane trying to deceive the referee? Oh, that's right, he wasn't. So it's nothing at all like Niasse's successful effort at deceiving the ref for which he has now been banned.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Plus £10m saved not buying a cheat..

Those aren't the people who sat in judgement of Niasse. You're still pissing on the wrong door.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.