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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Mar 20 6.11pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Seems that the fact an 8 year old was touched up is not important.
Imagine it was levelled at TR.
I'm sure there would be calls for a lynching but because TR was the victims father it doesnt matter about her.
Maybe it turns people on.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 07 Mar 20 6.22pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only reason I described the recording as "secret" was because that was how it was described in the referenced Twitter post!

That "Robinson" doesn't trust the Police is both irrelevant and entirely his own fault.

We can, or certainly ought to, trust the Police to do their work calmly and thoroughly whilst being mindful of the pressures they are under after years of cuts to their numbers and resources.

My guess is that in many cases an incident like this might not be able to command a great deal of Police time at the moment. They have to prioritise and their decisions won't always meet the approval of everyone.

It's unfortunate but I think it's also the reality.

here here...i know who i would trust if it was either the police word or a guy with a conviction list like yaxley-lennon.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 07 Mar 20 6.27pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only reason I described the recording as "secret" was because that was how it was described in the referenced Twitter post!

That "Robinson" doesn't trust the Police is both irrelevant and entirely his own fault.

We can, or certainly ought to, trust the Police to do their work calmly and thoroughly whilst being mindful of the pressures they are under after years of cuts to their numbers and resources.

My guess is that in many cases an incident like this might not be able to command a great deal of Police time at the moment. They have to prioritise and their decisions won't always meet the approval of everyone.

It's unfortunate but I think it's also the reality.

Ever heard of Hillsborough

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 07 Mar 20 7.16pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Ever heard of Hillsborough

And that was before the cuts.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I didn’t say I did. I said someone more interested in religion might refer you to a verse. See how this works?


Well should they then their reasoning would be just as puzzling as it concerns hypocrisy.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 07 Mar 20 8.10pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Edited by DANGERCLOSE (07 Mar 2020 8.11pm)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Oh dear, the level of misrepresentation is reaching new heights and occuring on a daily basis now. So let me be quite clear. I don't support the Police over the grooming gangs, or indeed over Hillsborough. I can hear the gasps of disbelief and incredulity down here in Cornwall, so let me explain what I mean.

I support the Police. Period. Always. In everything and every way. I believe it's the duty of every citizen to support our Police at all times.

That doesn't mean they are perfect. Nothing run by people can ever be perfect. They make mistakes. They take decisions that, with the benefit of hindsight, can subsequently look to be grave errors. Sometimes their management systems fail and need radical overhaul. Sometimes they are working under government imposed restrictions we are unaware of. These days they work under enormous pressure, with stretched manpower and resources so they need our support and understanding more than ever.

Like everyone else the Police can learn from their mistakes and serve us better as a consequence. What they need is for us to have their backs, providing as much physical and moral support as possible.

What they don't need are loud mouthed trouble makers, and their apologists, making their job more difficult.

"Robinson" was apparently arrested for taking the law into his own hands and causing someone actual bodily harm. If true that's no one's fault other than his own.

That someone was alleged to have "groped his child" doesn't mean that they did, or if the evidence to prove they did, or did not, exists. That's why the Police need to quietly and objectively review the evidence and decide what action is appropriate. It's not revolutionary. It's standard procedure. If there is a history of similar complaints at the same location then that might raise the level of the investigation.

I do agree though with one thing. The recording does reveal all you need to know. Which is that "Robinson" is still the aggressive loud mouth he has always been and the the Police are doing their job.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 07 Mar 20 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This guy is a liar and anyone who read the thread in question concerning the Police response to those rapes knows it.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So TR not trusting the police is irrelevant and entirely his own fault even with his persecution but people highlighting the grooming gangs and their demographic is relevant in the fact that it isolates a demographic unfairly.
Even though a lot of the surrounding families would and do know about it.

"Robinson" not trusting the Police is irrelevant to the way they are handling this issue. It appears he did punch someone and got arrested for it, because there was actual evidence. It has been alleged that someone groped a child and the Police are investigating the circumstances.

The "grooming gangs" issue is unconnected and has no parallels that I can see other than that "Robinson" has been trying to involve himself in both.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Seems that the fact an 8 year old was touched up is not important.

Lets be factual. It has been alleged that she was "touched up".

Imagine it was levelled at TR.

I am quite sure he would receive exactly the same treatment. The Police would investigate and decide on the evidence and not on innuendo.

I'm sure there would be calls for a lynching but because TR was the victims father it doesnt matter about her.
Maybe it turns people on.

That's just silly.

Everyone needs to just allow the Police to do their job. "Robinson" especially.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 9.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Ever heard of Hillsborough

Of course. Your point being what? That the Police make mistakes and can learn from them?

Everyone can learn. Most do. Only died in the wool regressives never change things and believe that yesterday's practices were better than tomorrow's.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 Mar 20 9.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The poster who needs to go to Specsavers also seems in need of some memory therapy.

 

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