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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Apr 21 7.47am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The very least we can do is deny entry to certain types of people. As a nation we should reserve the right to allow and disallow entry to whom we please.

Those that were born here should be imprisoned for life or offered the opportunity to emigrate to their mother country. Deals can be done between countries with this sort of arrangement. Those that were not born here should be deported without delay.

None of that is impossible. It just takes determination and a political mandate.

Interesting point.

We cannot deport many awful people back to their home country because the courts say they are terrible places don't respect human rights etc.

However if you applied the same logic to granting visas it would be called discriminatory. Personally I think that we should have a black list of countries where the culture is at odds with our western democratic society.

Anybody coming from those countries would have to prove that they don't share those values and that their visa would have a built in expulsion clause if they were found to have broken the rules.

Not all cultures are of equal value and worthiness something the left doesn't get. Maybe we need to drive home the point.

Perhaps we should allow people in based on the following questionnaire:

1. Do you believe women are worth less than men?
2. Do you believe in arranged marriages?
3. Do you believe girls should be denied an education?
4. Do you believe in honour killings and FGM?
5. Do you believe in executing gays and other members of the alphabet soup?
6. Do you believe young white working class girls are fair game?
7. Do you believe in Sharia law?
8. Do you believe that anyone who offends the Prophet e.g. cartoons should be stoned to death.?

If you answer yes to the above questions then you are granted a visa welcome to Britain the left will be happy to celebrate with you.


 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Apr 21 11.12am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The very least we can do is deny entry to certain types of people. As a nation we should reserve the right to allow and disallow entry to whom we please.

Those that were born here should be imprisoned for life or offered the opportunity to emigrate to their mother country. Deals can be done between countries with this sort of arrangement. Those that were not born here should be deported without delay.

None of that is impossible. It just takes determination and a political mandate.

I think you are extremely naive. The "mother country" of those born here is here! Those "deals" would never be done. Why would they? Those not born here, if they have acquired citizenship and have no other, have just as many rights.

You might not like it but that's the way it is. Moaning about it isn't going to change anything so now propose something practical.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Apr 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

With the help of friends? We can never repay the debt owed to the generation involved but the more than 25m Russians who died and America’s intervention was more than “the help of friends”.
Let’s face it without Russia being involved we would have been rolled over no matter how many sleeves were rolled up.

Undoubtedly true but nonetheless the attitude of that generation shows us that with determination and effort things can be done.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Apr 21 11.24am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Undoubtedly true but nonetheless the attitude of that generation shows us that with determination and effort things can be done.

The difference being that there was a common purpose then which the country was united to achieve. There wasn’t the current obsession with accusations, claims and denials which only seems to be getting worse.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Apr 21 11.51am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting point.

We cannot deport many awful people back to their home country because the courts say they are terrible places don't respect human rights etc.

However if you applied the same logic to granting visas it would be called discriminatory. Personally I think that we should have a black list of countries where the culture is at odds with our western democratic society.

Anybody coming from those countries would have to prove that they don't share those values and that their visa would have a built in expulsion clause if they were found to have broken the rules.

Not all cultures are of equal value and worthiness something the left doesn't get. Maybe we need to drive home the point.

Perhaps we should allow people in based on the following questionnaire:

1. Do you believe women are worth less than men?
2. Do you believe in arranged marriages?
3. Do you believe girls should be denied an education?
4. Do you believe in honour killings and FGM?
5. Do you believe in executing gays and other members of the alphabet soup?
6. Do you believe young white working class girls are fair game?
7. Do you believe in Sharia law?
8. Do you believe that anyone who offends the Prophet e.g. cartoons should be stoned to death.?

If you answer yes to the above questions then you are granted a visa welcome to Britain the left will be happy to celebrate with you.


Clearly no-one is going to ask those questions in the way you have written them BUT there are already questions at all stages of the visa and settlement process which demand that applicants make commitments on terrorism and lawful behaviour. No-one is going to answer "yes" to these, because if they did their application would obviously be refused. The point must be to strengthen any case in which deportation is sought because it could then be established they lied on the application.

Here are a few of the questions from an "indefinite leave to remain" application:-

"In either peace or war time have you ever been
involved in, or suspected of involvement in, war
crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide?"

"Have you ever been involved in, supported or
encouraged terrorist activities in any country?"

"Have you ever been a member of, or given support
to, an organisation which has been concerned in
terrorism?"

"Have you, by any means or medium, expressed
views that justify or glorify terrorist violence or that may encourage others to commit terrorist or other
serious criminal acts?"

"Have you ever been a member of, or given support
to, an organisation which is or has been concerned
with extremism?"

"Have you, by any means or medium, expressed any
extremist views?"

"Have you, as a part of your employment or
otherwise, undertaken paid or unpaid activity on
behalf of a non-UK government which you know to
be dangerous to the interests or national security
of the UK or its allies?"

"Have you ever engaged in any other activities which
might indicate that you may not be considered to
be a person of good character?"

"Is there any other information about your character
or behaviour which you would like to make us
aware of?"

Anyone answering no to those questions and then committing any kind of crime makes themselves potentially very vulnerable.

It doesn't though mean that they can then just be shown the door. If they have already acquired citizenship and renounced any previous one then we cannot do anything except punish them here.

I guess the real point is to try to frighten people.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 27 Apr 21 11.59am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


When Gilbert Harding went to America there was a question on the visa application which read Do you intend to overthrow, by force, the Government of the United States?
His answer “Sole purpose of visit” didn’t go down well.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Apr 21 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think you are extremely naive. The "mother country" of those born here is here! Those "deals" would never be done. Why would they? Those not born here, if they have acquired citizenship and have no other, have just as many rights.

You might not like it but that's the way it is. Moaning about it isn't going to change anything so now propose something practical.


I'm not naive. I understand how things work, but I also understand that nothing is set in stone.
Rights can be afforded and taken away. How far will the international community go to protect mass rapists? How much 'bribery' would it take to persuade pakistan to take a few thousand criminals?

I 100% agree that these things are not easy but it just takes a will to make it happen.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Apr 21 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The Prime Minister of pakistan

[Link]

Former cricketer and world class hypocrite. I doubt very much they are urging their people to adopt western liberal attitudes so why should we accept their people.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Apr 21 1.56pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The Prime Minister of pakistan

[Link]

Former cricketer and world class hypocrite. I doubt very much they are urging their people to adopt western liberal attitudes so why should we accept their people.

I'm following his lead by selling t-shirts and posters of Mohammed saying 'yes, to blasphemy, no to the infidel'.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Apr 21 2.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The Prime Minister of pakistan

[Link]

Former cricketer and world class hypocrite. I doubt very much they are urging their people to adopt western liberal attitudes so why should we accept their people.

Met him in pakistan, treated like a god there but boy, what a nasty piece of work. He seemed love the Western values when he was drinking and s***ging the local women whilst in Sussex

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 27 Apr 21 5.25pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I'm following his lead by selling t-shirts and posters of Mohammed saying 'yes, to blasphemy, no to the infidel'.

Jiminez is probably banging thousands of them out as we speak.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Apr 21 8.51am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman



Met him in pakistan, treated like a god there but boy, what a nasty piece of work.
He seemed love the Western values when he was drinking and s***ging the local women whilst in Sussex

There seems to be a casual acceptance of Bullying in that culture. I have witnessed it myself many times.

 


from the Etihad, Emirates, Molyneux, London Stadium, the Vitality, turf moor & Anfield to Old Trafford x 2.....or a neighbourly visit to Craven Cottage...Raptors on the Road

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