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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.16pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

so you confess to 'trolling the thread' to bore us all off the main topic ?

I am just going with the flow. Who started the direction I cannot recall, and am certainly not going to trawl back to find out!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Feb 22 11.18pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


You don't succeed in selling simply by influencing minds. That's the common perception of the layman. You succeed by finding out what your customer needs and then providing it to them. People like Del boy are not salesmen. They are con men. Unfortunately there are a lot of them out there, so beware.

This is similar to the idea that businesses should sell consumers what they make, when the truth is they should make what the consumers need, and then explain the benefits, so it is also what they want.

Most consumers don't give a toss about anything "woke". It's only the right who get so excited about it. Many now care about the environment, and it's far from being just the young. Most though care much more about quality and value.

The huge cynicism demonstrated above is only topped by the ability to try to link it to the grooming gang scandal and "Asian" votes, which is as ridiculous as it is creative.

Not sure about that. Branding is pretty important - people will queue round the block for some companies offerings no matter what they are so the trick is to convince people to buy what they donít actually want or need.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 Feb 22 11.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We all have different opinions and approaches. Mine is harsh, I accept that, but there are times when firmness is needed, and times when compromise serves better. Thatcher knew that better than anyone.

Just as I want all religion removed from public life, without exception, I want no sympathy extended to anyone deliberately refusing the vaccine. Except those who remain misinformed, and nervous. They need help.

You are an extremist.

Irrational language use is one thing, removing religion from public life is what it seems....extreme.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 11.50pm)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not sure about that. Branding is pretty important - people will queue round the block for some companies offerings no matter what they are so the trick is to convince people to buy what they donít actually want or need.

Brands build trust. That's marketing, not selling. What you describe is confidence trickery.

I personally never buy anything because of its brand. The idea that people displaying a label makes them feel good leaves me cold.

I buy on quality and value. Working for so long in the food industry allowed me to know who made what for whom. Many recipes are identical, or slightly tweaked. Only the packaging is really any different, although many consumers refuse to believe it. Own label is now so well entrenched that in many cases the biggest selling brand is now an own label. The biggest selling baked beans, for instance, isn't Heinz, it's Tesco. You pay a lot more to support the brand awareness of Heinz though.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are an extremist.

Strange that.

I thought I was a weak at the knees, compliant, leftist sheep. According to the multitude of sages posting here.

Now I am labelled in the same camp as ISIS, The Taliban and the name this thread is dedicated to.

I'm off to have my bedtime Horlicks. Too much excitement.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Feb 22 12.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are an extremist.

Irrational language use is one thing, removing religion from public life is what it seems....extreme.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 11.50pm)

Extremely full of something and empty of self awareness

 


If untruths and bllshit are allowed to flourish unchallenged the forum will be the worse for it.

Opinions are not facts just because you believe them

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Feb 22 12.48am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Brands build trust. That's marketing, not selling. What you describe is confidence trickery.

I personally never buy anything because of its brand. The idea that people displaying a label makes them feel good leaves me cold.

I buy on quality and value. Working for so long in the food industry allowed me to know who made what for whom. Many recipes are identical, or slightly tweaked. Only the packaging is really any different, although many consumers refuse to believe it. Own label is now so well entrenched that in many cases the biggest selling brand is now an own label. The biggest selling baked beans, for instance, isn't Heinz, it's Tesco. You pay a lot more to support the brand awareness of Heinz though.

Fair enough but thereís no created cultural cachet to a tin of beans.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Feb 22 7.57am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend


Mods, please close thread as the last hundred comments are only about irrelevant shyte

 


7 points from Manchester last season

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Feb 22 8.44am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


You don't succeed in selling simply by influencing minds. That's the common perception of the layman. You succeed by finding out what your customer needs and then providing it to them. People like Del boy are not salesmen. They are con men. Unfortunately there are a lot of them out there, so beware.

This is similar to the idea that businesses should sell consumers what they make, when the truth is they should make what the consumers need, and then explain the benefits, so it is also what they want.

Most consumers don't give a toss about anything "woke". It's only the right who get so excited about it. Many now care about the environment, and it's far from being just the young. Most though care much more about quality and value.

The huge cynicism demonstrated above is only topped by the ability to try to link it to the grooming gang scandal and "Asian" votes, which is as ridiculous as it is creative.

You know full well that advertising is about influence. Identifying a need is a different aspect altogether.
A company does not expect anyone to buy a product purely on the basis of an advertisement, they just want to make their brand familiar and appealing so that when you are in the market, you think of them.
Image is now everything, and the young suck up token political mumbo jumbo because they are gullible.
Wokenes is the current Zeitgeist.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Feb 22 8.53am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You know full well that advertising is about influence. Identifying a need is a different aspect altogether.
A company does not expect anyone to buy a product purely on the basis of an advertisement, they just want to make their brand familiar and appealing so that when you are in the market, you think of them.
Image is now everything, and the young suck up token political mumbo jumbo because they are gullible.
Wokenes is the current Zeitgeist.

Itís been known for a long time too. Vance Packardís 1957 book about advertising was called The Hidden Persuaders.
Social media ďinfluencersĒ are thought to have a 15 billion dollar effect on the economy.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Feb 22 9.47am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Mods, close thread. It has literally lost the plot.

 


7 points from Manchester last season

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You know full well that advertising is about influence. Identifying a need is a different aspect altogether.
A company does not expect anyone to buy a product purely on the basis of an advertisement, they just want to make their brand familiar and appealing so that when you are in the market, you think of them.
Image is now everything, and the young suck up token political mumbo jumbo because they are gullible.
Wokenes is the current Zeitgeist.

Watch "Century of the Self" and "The Power of Nightmares" - we have literally been manipulated for decades and not just into buying things.

 

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