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 FinchleyEagle  13 Dec 17 12.16pm |
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The OP is extremely negative at a time we were playing poorly and losing 1-0 at home, did that possibly influence the post? As has been said, our defence looks really poor. Fosu-Mensah particularly looked all over the place at times and the rest could be ok if they were the only one of them playing in a really good defence and they raised their game, but altogether it's too porous. However, going forward we are a threat and there are way worse teams than us. Barring bad injuries to key players there's simply no way we'll go down - Hodgson's too experienced and manages the media and presumably the players well. 6 unbeaten, played Burnley and Spurs off the park away and unluckily got beaten - that shows pedigree. It could go either way of course, but a couple of astute signings in Jan, a fair wind and we'll end up mid-table I assure you.
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chateauferret  13 Dec 17 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by FinchleyEagle
The OP is extremely negative at a time we were playing poorly and losing 1-0 at home, did that possibly influence the post? As has been said, our defence looks really poor. Fosu-Mensah particularly looked all over the place at times and the rest could be ok if they were the only one of them playing in a really good defence and they raised their game, but altogether it's too porous. However, going forward we are a threat and there are way worse teams than us. Barring bad injuries to key players there's simply no way we'll go down - Hodgson's too experienced and manages the media and presumably the players well. 6 unbeaten, played Burnley and Spurs off the park away and unluckily got beaten - that shows pedigree. It could go either way of course, but a couple of astute signings in Jan, a fair wind and we'll end up mid-table I assure you. It's the fair wind that's the problem. Most of the wind lately seems to have come directly from a pig's arse. Edited by chateauferret (13 Dec 2017 12.40pm)
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DutchEagleJohan  Vlissingen, Netherlands 13 Dec 17 1.06pm |
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Could be worth a try. He had a piss poor game in midfield at Bristol City but who didn't? Not sure he has he featured since. Originally posted by cpj
A few thoughts... Also, when we get free-kicks in the middle of the pitch, we just take them quickly with a short pass and then usually lose it again. What happened to lumping the ball into the box? Surely more chance of scoring with Benteke, Dann, Tomkins?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 17 1.06pm |
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I was thinking about how many points we've lost out on due to luck, not finishing chances, bounce of the ball, individual fvck ups, call it what you will and a post on the BBS shows it towers over the 4 points v Stoke and Watford. Roy therefore deserves these points looking at his tenure to date. But it's noticeable we aren't playing well for most of the game and that has to improve asap to earn and cement some solid points again rather than late scrambles, even though they prove the morale and grit needed for this is there. The way the oppo always look like scoring 2 with us not creating solid chances is a concern.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 17 1.07pm |
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How do you always manage to post above previous posts? Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
Could be worth a try. He had a piss poor game in midfield at Bristol City but who didn't? Not sure he has he featured since.
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| matthau South Croydon 13 Dec 17 1.13pm |
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blame it on the 'shrooms
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
blame it on the 'shrooms Indy band?
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| DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 13 Dec 17 1.15pm |
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My cursor comes up at the top left, so I very thoughtfully start typing straight away then end with a couple of enters
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 17 1.39pm |
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Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan
My cursor comes up at the top left, so I very thoughtfully start typing straight away then end with a couple of enters Your cursor is offside.
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| Sansbup Norfolk 13 Dec 17 3.39pm |
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FWIW I do think we get 'bullied' at times by the more physical teams, e.g. Bournemouth, Watford etc. Sometimes I wish we could dole out some physical chastisement without giving fouls away, but occasionally some of our players are muscled off the ball by the bigger physical specimens that some of the clubs around us seem to have that we don't (Luka and Mamadou are possible exceptions).
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| eagle@ tn34 hastings 13 Dec 17 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by Sansbup
FWIW I do think we get 'bullied' at times by the more physical teams, e.g. Bournemouth, Watford etc. Sometimes I wish we could dole out some physical chastisement without giving fouls away, but occasionally some of our players are muscled off the ball by the bigger physical specimens that some of the clubs around us seem to have that we don't (Luka and Mamadou are possible exceptions). Agree with this 100%. Watford were much more physical than us and got 2 nd ball quicker. I was surprised but thankfull that we won. COYP
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 13 Dec 17 8.06pm |
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Most noticeable last night was how we were bullied in midfield but the idea that Roy's playing with the wrong formation etc is crap. Him and Ray Lew have forgotten more about football than anyone on these boards knows, know the strengths and weaknesses of the squad and came in when we'd given the rest a four game start and pre-season. Sure they're still learning one or two things about the character of squad but we won last night because he changed things and came up with plan b as the game evolved. Fantastic moment for McArthur. What a player he's turned out to be. Never sulks, 100% honesty with quality and composure thrown in.
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