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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Oct 18 12.28pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Max Keiser.
One of the good guys.

Max keiser speaks the truth, even the ugly truth. Just like Tommy.


its why the establishment hates them both.

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Oct 18 2.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Here's an interview with Imam Tawhidi, a friend of Tommy Robinson and the model for how Islam can peacefully exist in the west.....though he knows that it's not going to happen.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 18 3.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Volkischer Beobachter

Edited by pefwin (18 Oct 2018 10.16am)

The far Left are the new fascists, supported by all the identities with axes to grind and the self serving elite.

Restriction of free speech.
Mob violence against other political groups.
Defacing and removing statues and other cultural reminders.
Rewriting history.
Discouraging national identity among its perceived enemies.
Forcing people out of jobs and political positions because they speak out.
Defaming the character of political opponents.

It all sounds very familiar.

Perhaps they will learn to goose step next.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Oct 18 5.32pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The far Left are the new fascists, supported by all the identities with axes to grind and the self serving elite.

Restriction of free speech.
Mob violence against other political groups.
Defacing and removing statues and other cultural reminders.

Rewriting history.
Discouraging national identity among its perceived enemies.
Forcing people out of jobs and political positions because they speak out.
Defaming the character of political opponents.

It all sounds very familiar.

Perhaps they will learn to goose step next.


Lefties are the true Fascists for sure.

you forgot to mention the imprisoning of dissidents like Tommy under very questionable circumstances.
The Pravda propaganda of the mass media.
The vilification of Goldstein, er, whoever this week.
Anti-democracy such as refusing to accept the brexit result.
Patriarchal Arrogance of those in high places who know best....Corbyn's buddies in terrorist organisations like Hamas or the 'Ra.
Hitler's deliberate diplomatic insult to the Czech Prime Minister reminds me of Sadiq Khan and his Trump blimp - bullying arrogance.
The re-writing of history ( and historical drama's) to serve their current narrative. You watch the BBC ?

Tommy is a freedom fighter !

Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Oct 2018 6.12pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 18 Oct 18 6.35pm

Only the fascists can be the new fascists.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Originally posted by pefwin

Only the fascists can be the new fascists.

You cannot deny the similarity between far Left tactics and the Nazis. They are clear for all to see.

Even traditional left wingers are turning away. They can't avoid seeing the painful truth any longer.

 

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Originally posted by pefwin

Only the fascists can be the new fascists.


It's a modern mistake to equate fascism as a right wing philosophy.....I mean it has elements of both the far right and the far left.

Mussolini invented fascism and he was a socialist who attended anti war rallies as a youth.

Hitler created National Socialism as the Germanic version. Notice the socialism aspect of fascism.....something that has been airbrushed out of a lot of history.

Yet Hitler had free day care and provided national healthcare.....He had very high taxation for the wealthy....it believed in cradle to the grave.

No one ever taught me this.....I had to actually learn it off my own back.

You find out in society that you aren't taught the truth...but rather what people want you to believe.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2018 7.12pm)

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 18 Oct 18 7.26pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You cannot deny the similarity between far Left tactics and the Nazis. They are clear for all to see.

Even traditional left wingers are turning away. They can't avoid seeing the painful truth any longer.

There is a truth when politics get to the extreme both wings look the same. After all Stalin and your own politics are not far apart.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Originally posted by pefwin

There is a truth when politics get to the extreme both wings look the same. After all Stalin and your own politics are not far apart.

Odd since a recent online test I did had me slightly to the left in the political spectrum and not extreme anything.

You mistake you deluded prejudice for reality.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 18 Oct 18 7.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


It's a modern mistake to equate fascism as a right wing philosophy.....I mean it has elements of both the far right and the far left.

Mussolini invented fascism and he was a socialist who attended anti war rallies as a youth.

Hitler created National Socialism as the Germanic version. Notice the socialism aspect of fascism.....something that has been airbrushed out of a lot of history.

Yet Hitler had free day care and provided national healthcare.....He had very high taxation for the wealthy....it believed in cradle to the grave.

No one ever taught me this.....I had to actually learn it off my own back.

You find out in society that you aren't taught the truth...but rather what people want you to believe.


Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2018 7.12pm)

It is a bad mistake to mix fascism with national socialism. Fascism is a term for the far right as is Stalinist for the far left a term that you like to bandy around and would laugh at if called.

Hitler and Stalin were very similar look at their views on clothing and food. Hitler was a vege, enough said.

Personally I am glad that you have dipped your toe into self directed learning for many it is a daily thing.


As many have said before "history is written by the winner"until teh deafeated have a voive as well and it is labelled revisionist. Personally I doubt both.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 18 Oct 18 7.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Odd since a recent online test I did had me slightly to the left in the political spectrum and not extreme anything.

You mistake you deluded prejudice for reality.

National Socialist is a reality, perhaps you should read and find out its actual political foundations in NAZI Germany.

Next we will all be saving for Volkswagens we will not receive.

 


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Originally posted by pefwin

It is a bad mistake to mix fascism with national socialism. Fascism is a term for the far right as is Stalinist for the far left a term that you like to bandy around and would laugh at if called.

Hitler and Stalin were very similar look at their views on clothing and food. Hitler was a vege, enough said.

Personally I am glad that you have dipped your toe into self directed learning for many it is a daily thing.


As many have said before "history is written by the winner"until teh deafeated have a voive as well and it is labelled revisionist. Personally I doubt both.

It's hardly a 'bad mistake' as it's pretty fair to call national socialism as a form of fascism......The Italian and German systems....while not copies, were basically similar.

They have at their core authoritarianism. That's the line which connects both the far left and right.

Personally I don't think many of us prefer that form of politics to freedom of the individual....even though we are increasingly seeing freedoms being eroded here.

Really the main differences between the far left and the far right is the attitude towards business and the attitude towards nationhood......otherwise they are more similar than they like to admit.

 


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