You think he’d see as much of the ball, when it’s being played out, if the options were Jorginho, Pulisic, Abraham, Mount , Hudson odoi etc , instead of ayew and Townsend? (the rest of our 11 are defenders)

You may be right , that he could improve the latter bit of his game, but would you risk 60/70/80 million on a player, that will be 28 this year , massively improving ?

Personally I think he’s gone already. He’s spoken to a club over the January transfer window a fee has been formalised, personal terms are sorted and he’s playing “safe” so he doesn’t get injured and plus I think his heart is not in this club anymore.

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I think the problem with his game recently is that he does very little with power and pace. He is great at beating a defender one on one, but it is done at a walking pace from a standing start. By the time he has beaten them the opposition defence are all in position like they would be for a corner. Also I’m not sure teams double up on him, it’s just that by the way he slowly beats a full back, there is another defender in position waiting for him.
Looking at players in similar positions forwards and wide players like Mane, Sane, Sterling, Vardy ,Salah, etc they attack defenders at such pace that if they beat them they are either through on goal or at least have a chance of finding a team mate in a good position without all the opposing defence in position and ready.
By the time Wilf has done his tricks and beaten the defender we usually have 1 in the box against 3/4 defenders, Pirlo would struggle to thread a decent ball to his team mate.

Given current form, age etc, I'll be surprised if, after Man take their cut, we'll get 30£m for him.

Yes, the ceiling is 15 million so we would have to get 65m to get more AWB, cant see that happening I would be surprised if we cleared more than 30m if he goes

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He’s looked just an ordinary player this season - something I never thought that I would see.
He’s only had a couple of good games.
Still think there will be interest in him because of his form in past seasons.
I agree we’ll find it difficult to get the huge fee unless some sort of auction emerges.
For me he receives the ball with his back to goal too often.
I’d like the ball played in front of him for him to run on to and take defenders on.
I’d also like to see him moving across the front line and be more mobile in his game.
Doubt this will happen as Hodgson plays a very rigid system with little scope for players to move from their allotted roles, even when the system is not working.