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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 01 May 18 10.53am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by se25 rudy

Precisely the point - he's not there primarily to score but his contribution to team has been immense.

Kante is a shoe-in for POTY at Chelsea but has only (gasp!!) 1 goal & 1 assist - he must be toilet then I suppose...........

I never said that. Others have brought up Milivojevic's goals and assist contribution. I didn't say it's what makes a good defensive midfielder.

Let's talk his defensive midfielder contribution if you'd like. His recoveries, his speed. And his set pieces

 

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View se25 rudy's Profile se25 rudy Flag se25 01 May 18 10.59am Send a Private Message to se25 rudy Add se25 rudy as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I never said that. Others have brought up Milivojevic's goals and assist contribution. I didn't say it's what makes a good defensive midfielder.

Let's talk his defensive midfielder contribution if you'd like. His recoveries, his speed. And his set pieces

I made a solemn vow never again to get involved in a Matteo thread - I intend to stick to it

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 01 May 18 11.04am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by se25 rudy

I made a solemn vow never again to get involved in a Matteo thread - I intend to stick to it

Come on, I'm not THAT abnoxious. Am I? )

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 May 18 11.23am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I never said that. Others have brought up Milivojevic's goals and assist contribution. I didn't say it's what makes a good defensive midfielder.

Let's talk his defensive midfielder contribution if you'd like. His recoveries, his speed. And his set pieces

That is precisely what I was talking about!! His contribution as a defensive midfielder has been immense, personally if you carried on playing this role as he has I would not give a flying fig if he didn't score another goal!! Nothing wrong with his set pieces as far as I can see.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 May 18 11.26am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

So why bring into discussion his goals and assist if we're talking about his contribution as a defensive midfielder?? ))

I was just answering to that question. I've given reasons why he hasn't had a good season: taking set pieces without eficiency, I can also show you goals where he was at fault. Yes, he had some solid matches too. But player POTY? Come on....

I'm giving you solid facts, you're giving me personal opinions. Answer me this: was Milivojevic a good set piece taker this entire year??

Edited by mattteo (01 May 2018 10.06am)

Think we have scored quite a few goals resulting from his corners

 

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View benmccarthy's Profile benmccarthy Flag Kent 01 May 18 11.34am Send a Private Message to benmccarthy Add benmccarthy as a friend

Player:
Zaha - Haven't got a point without him in the team

Young Player:
Wan-Bissaka

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 01 May 18 11.50am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Think we have scored quite a few goals resulting from his corners

Care to back up this statement with some examples? All I remember is the Huddersfield goal which resulted from a decent corner of his: [Link]

After many attempts all season.

When Townsend took a corner one time against Arsenal, it resulted in a goal by Tomkins: [Link]

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 01 May 18 12.08pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Milivojevic??????????

Took set pieces all year, didn't hit a single assist (edit: had one assist in the 34th matchday against Brighton, with only 4 matches to go until the end of the season, but it wasn't one of his set pieces). Makes you wonder why does he take set pieces actually? Ok, he scored 1 very nice goal from a free kick and is good from the penalty spot (7 of his 10 goals were from the penalty spot) but he couldn't cross for a goal an entire season despite taking set pieces!!

Guilty at plenty of goals (the one in the 90th minute against Man United easily comes to mind, but there were others too).

It's like fans here have a fascination with Milivojevic. Decent player but in no way player of the season. Not even a great season if you ask me, just a mediocre one.

Undoubtedly Zaha, Townsend, Tomkins, PVA, McArthur have kept this team up and deserve it a lot more.

Edited by mattteo (01 May 2018 10.00am)

Townsend ???? His been consistently solid but not had a season that should be him mentioned anywhere near player of the season, zaha has by far been our best player and milo has had a better season than Townsend

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 01 May 18 12.08pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

RLC for young player of the year. Lovely to see AWB making the step up to the first team but difficult to give it to him after only six appearances.

Wilf for player of the year. I would have gone for Wayne but he has no goals and no assists

 


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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag South London 01 May 18 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Lads - this really isn't difficult.

PoY - Wilf obvs.

YPoY - Wann Bissaka obvs.

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 01 May 18 12.14pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I think I can safely discount every comment you ever post on here after that one. Time to take your eyes off the data and watch the bl00dy football.

That said, Tomkins just shaves it for me with Luka a very close second.

Youth player a no-brainer.

The only football he sees is an animation on a computer screen; he badly needs to get out of his bedroom at his mum's and find some real friends.

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 01 May 18 12.26pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

The only football he sees is an animation on a computer screen; he badly needs to get out of his bedroom at his mum's and find some real friends.

You're turning this into a personal agenda you have against me instead of answering the points made by the discussion. I'd really, really like to punch your stupid ass face in real life, to see if you'd still have the balls to talk like that

 

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