Yeah, but the slavers aren't white, so they don't care.

Yep and the Barbary slave trade isn't taught to whites is it? Black on white slavery.

Yet these were Islamic slave traders from North Africa mostly controlled by the Ottoman Empire who took hundreds of thousands of white slaves over the 1500–1800 time period.

Their slaver ships raided ships and coastal towns taking slaves from afar as the Eastern med to Iceland and included attacking the British coast.

Hardly any whites get taught about it.....ever wondered why?

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Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Jun 2020 11.46pm)

TBF Islam along with the East had a far bigger role to play in our evolution into a ‘civilised’ world than most western education portrays

All that said I’m pretty sure we learnt about the Barbary trade at school. Maybe an anomaly

Propaganda works both ways. You can find an angle here and find an equivalent there

Essentially every culture or civilisation was built upon the slave trade in some form or another, and really it simply depends on what area of the world you’re in as to the demographic that it affects the most. Ultimately, it’s important to always be prepared to challenge history, rather than just accept it or dismiss it as ‘back in the day’. It’s not as simplistic as this, but there is an element of reap what you sow going on. I’m not condoning the more extreme ends of it, or the lack of balance in how it’s been portrayed in some cases, but ultimately it comes down to what it always comes down to - how recent is the memory? How deep do the scars run? Are they a shared cultural pain, passed on for generations? Tick all those boxes and increase minority demographics and your karma is here.

I suppose what I’m saying is you can’t just dismiss this, brush it off or play the ‘it happened ages ago’ card. But at the same time you can’t hold people of the ‘now’ accountable for past actions. But you can test them once in a while to see if they’ve learnt from the mistakes of the past - and quarrel with bronzed up idols being celebrated in a square rather than taught about and viewed in a more balanced way.

I have no idea where the line is, but some of ‘our’ cultural icons should be reappraised, or at the very least exposed to create healthy debate about our previously held, perhaps ignorant views about them. And why not? Anything else is simply rewriting history for the sake of avoiding the debate.

Should every statue be pulled down? No. Should we decide to have a long hard think about our actual history? The one that unobjectively lays bare the truth rather than hides it through western flavoured teachings? I’m more interested in that version, please. The actual facts rather than what really can be equated to religious teachings (all countries and cultures are guilty of this of course, but it really annoys me when people don’t even think to challenge what they’ve been taught).