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View Spitfire's Profile Spitfire Flag Biggin Hill 05 Sep 18 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Spitfire Add Spitfire as a friend

Having reading the statements from the club and the HF it seems to me that everybody really wants the same thing. - A great team performance on the pitch enhanced by a great atmosphere.

Personally I had not been a huge fan of the HF but I thought their statement last night was generally excellent and certainly changed my perspective a little on the current situation.

As I am not part of an organised group I don't get to make a statement but as a long term home and away season ticket holder I feel I do have the right to an opinion / comment.

For what my opinions worth I support everything in the HF statement but would comment as follows with 2 points.

Firstly I believe atmosphere has deteriorated over the last few seasons due to the Premiership novelty wearing off a bit following the initial excitement of playing at this level and also the shocking home form of the team during the latter Pardew years and a fair bit under Alladyce / FDB. My point being I don't think declining atmosphere is solely down to where the HF sit in the ground. I accept being more central may help revitalise things but so will consistently winning a few games at home.

My second point is more of a request to the HF. Be organised, be a credit to the club add / lead the atmosphere etc but please remember there are 23000 other fans in the ground at home or another 1900 at away games. Be organised and be something for the rest of us to be proud of and support but please don't embarrass, threaten or ignore other fans as I have seen first hand on several occasions. I think if inclusion / consideration / recognition of other fans can be improved you will find much wider support.

Let hope that the next week or so will see some of these issue resolved and everyone unite behind the team.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Sep 18 6.32pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

So parish invested understanding that the odds would massively favour for the next 5-10 years working at and running a football club with little guarantee on seeing a profit on his investment before selling up and getting back only what he had put back in, effectively working for a decade for free.

I'm sure you would go and work somewhere for the next 10 years with a huge risk of not getting paid a penny.

There was little if any risk as he had secured his loan with a debenture over the assets of the club so that if it all went t1ts up he would get his money back from the sale of the ground.

He may well have got his initial loans back but he is sitting on an increase in share value that is worth more than most people earn in a lifetime.

Before the usual suspects pile in to say that he is worth every penny of his share values I am merely stating facts and not voicing an opinion

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 05 Sep 18 6.32pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

2,000 now [Link]

It’s only been 2 days. We’ll see. The longer this rumbles on with an atmosphere Fulham or Wigan can better it’ll keep growing, because most don’t want that, until you’re left with 1,000 who claim they don’t mind.


You do appreciate that the ramping up of this issue has made us a laughing stock with other clubs, especially those with a particular dislike for Palace. Their supporters are revelling in the spectacle of seeing our support tearing itself apart and are signing the petition in the hope that a sufficiently devisive wedge will be driven between the supporters and owners that we'll eventually implode. Seems to be working pretty well too.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 05 Sep 18 6.33pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

You do talk a lot of s*** don’t you, Rudi. It’s the typical ploy of yours to have a go and have a go and have a go again. And when someone lays out their opinions for you in detail and on a plate and you’ve got nothing left to sling, you resort to baseless childishness.

Lots of people claimed it in the Arthur at the time because it was happening. I’ve looked back on my old posts and mentioned it and no one seemed to bat an eyelid.

Do try to debate like an adult with people who disagree with you for once in your life. Stop being pedantic and attempting to take tiny segments of people’s statement of opinions in an attempt to disregard their broader point.

You know exactly what mine is, if you disagree with it fine, but do it like a functioning adult instead of a 4 year old.

Edited by Mstrobez (05 Sep 2018 6.03pm)

That's because you sit there, I'm in the arthur and alot of sound from the holmesdale gets lost but you can tell they're far louder in the holmesdale and it's or was non stop singing.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Sep 18 6.38pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

This thread gets better n better . . .

Br1-3ton must be absolutely loving this thread.

We're not called 'stripey nigels' for nothing

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 05 Sep 18 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

definitely agree when we first came up that the loudest AW was louder than the loudest Holmesdale. but I suspect far superior acoustics were the cause. when the AW is loud, and you're in it, it's far louder than the Holmesdale and joining in feels very easy. It's just rarely that loud any more.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 05 Sep 18 6.40pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There was little if any risk as he had secured his loan with a debenture over the assets of the club so that if it all went t1ts up he would get his money back from the sale of the ground.

He may well have got his initial loans back but he is sitting on an increase in share value that is worth more than most people earn in a lifetime.

Before the usual suspects pile in to say that he is worth every penny of his share values I am merely stating facts and not voicing an opinion

Because we was lucky enough to get promoted, we looked likely for league 1 rather than the prem, easy now with hindsight. Parish didn't have that luxury at that time. It's like someone investing in millwall now and working out his potential profit based on the club being in the prem, the return would be unreal the chance are very slim

 

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View youngpalacefan111's Profile youngpalacefan111 Flag 05 Sep 18 6.57pm Send a Private Message to youngpalacefan111 Add youngpalacefan111 as a friend

Originally posted by michaelpearce

but we go there for football and the team, thats the point im making,

they by there own design stopped getting everyone involved which it is so sad, they put there self's before the club and the team,hence why all those who didnt start the section think its the only thing we have at the club that gets the fans there,

me its the team not the fans I support,yes its sad, but as I said before its by there own design they stopped the section,nothing is stopping them from doing what they done before ,its just them

He doesn't seem to understand that most people go to watch the game itself, not to sing and dance and bang a drum.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Sep 18 6.59pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

havnt read all of todays bed wetting from nigels...but...

after todays release from the HF you cant really argue woth what they are saying, lets just be honest, the atmosphere is swful wothout the HF, always has been, always will be.

they have put the ball firmly in SP’s court, lets see what he does.

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 05 Sep 18 7.02pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

He doesn't seem to understand that most people go to watch the game itself, not to sing and dance and bang a drum.

You can watch the game sat at home, most people go to support the club and for the match day experience, if you go just to watch football and sit in the holmesdale lower then you're an idiot cause you can hardly see what's going on up the other end anyway.

 

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michaelpearce Flag grays 05 Sep 18 7.09pm

Originally posted by youngpalacefan111

He doesn't seem to understand that most people go to watch the game itself, not to sing and dance and bang a drum.

im from the days of football violence but we still watched the games while trying not to get lumped, and we wasnt there for the punch up we was there to support and watch

Edited by michaelpearce (05 Sep 2018 7.10pm)

 

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View youngpalacefan111's Profile youngpalacefan111 Flag 05 Sep 18 7.09pm Send a Private Message to youngpalacefan111 Add youngpalacefan111 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

You can watch the game sat at home, most people go to support the club and for the match day experience, if you go just to watch football and sit in the holmesdale lower then you're an idiot cause you can hardly see what's going on up the other end anyway.

I go to the games to watch my team play football regardless of the atmosphere. The atmosphere is an added bonus but not the reason I attend.

 

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