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View Jway89's Profile Jway89 Flag 17 Oct 18 5.53pm Send a Private Message to Jway89 Add Jway89 as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

We are veering off topic slightly... The point I was trying to make is the free market is more effective than government for saving the environment.

Another example, the clueless politicians behind the Paris Accord wanted to see a massive hit to the US economy with factories shut and jobs lost to reach an arbitrary temperature level when efficiency improvements in US manufacturing through better technology is reducing carbon anyway.

Yep, I agreed with Trump saying the PCA was rubbish and he was right to get out of it, but I was disappointed that he didn't really offer a solution. This is the problem with politicians, they do these 'great' things like the PCA to save the World, but when you really get into the details of these treaties, there aren't any hard targets that must be reached and no severe penalties. This is the state of the World unfortunately.


 

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Speaking of Dyson, I saw this in the Guardian today. Young engineers to get rewarded for their green living ideas.

'Cutlery made from potato peelings and a robotic cleaner that can tackle pollution in rivers, lakes and canals are among the groundbreaking international designs shortlisted for the prestigious annual James Dyson award.' [Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Oct 2018 10.09am)

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Speaking of Dyson, I saw this in the Guardian today. Young engineers to get rewarded for their green living ideas.

'Cutlery made from potato peelings and a robotic cleaner that can tackle pollution in rivers, lakes and canals are among the groundbreaking international designs shortlisted for the prestigious annual James Dyson award.' [Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (18 Oct 2018 10.09am)

Why don't those young engineers develop an efficient vacuum cleaner.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 18 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Why don't those young engineers develop an efficient vacuum cleaner.

Ha ha.

You must realise that built in obsolescence and low quality 'entry level' kit is part of marketing strategy.
They sell you a piece of crap so they can sell you another slightly better piece of crap later.

Vacuum cleaners of the 70's used to be better.

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Now they're telling us to not eat meat to protect the climate, a narrative pushed by the BBC.

Fortunately, the climate minister Claire Perry said it's not the government's job to advise people on a climate-friendly diet. Fair play, a rare bit of commonsense in the government.

But you can see that whose side the 'BBC environment analyst' Roger Harrabin is on...

[Link]

If eating meat is the problem then why are three quarters of the top 20 most polluted cities in India, which has the highest rate of vegetarians of any country, by miles?

The rest are in China for the record, and they're building new coal power stations right now.

Edited by Stuk (18 Oct 2018 3.38pm)

 


Optimistic as ever

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 29 Oct 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

The US pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord (signed by Obama) because it was just a virtue-signalling deal from the European and world leaders at a major cost to jobs. The likes of Chine and the EU were never going to adhere to their 'pledges' to reduce carbon. All of those on the left jumped down Trump's throat but it turns out he was right to.

'Only 16 countries have emissions reduction targets matching their promises to avoid catastrophic climate change' [Link]

The fine journalism from the Independent doesn't actually name the 16 countries in the article! My own research finds it's: Algeria, Canada, Costa Rica, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Indonesia, Japan, FYR Macedonia, Malaysia, Montenegro, Norway, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Samoa, Singapore and Tonga.

It also turns out that total US greenhouse gas emissions have decreased by 2.7 percent from 2016 to 2017 because of technological breakthroughs, ie the private sector. [Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (29 Oct 2018 10.32am)

 

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