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 Palace in the Blood  15 Oct 18 9.18am |
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Originally posted by BuckinghamshireEagle
What a shame that this could not have been sorted out through discussion between the club, the HF and other fans in the LH. But since it was not, the club should have stuck to their original position. I agree with most of this wholeheartedly. The club should have stuck to its original statement and consulted all sides properly. Firstly found out if supporters wanted a singing section, Secondly who wanted to be part. Having found out demand they could have started to negotiate it a home, inevitably this would have still meant moving people but they would have a mandate from supporters now they don't. I think the paragraph on u turn is wrong I think safe standing trials will begin next season. These problems relate to this singing section decision. By on paper allowing a standing section in setting up the singing section it allows planning decision to be questioned and will almost certainly stop a safe standing trial at Palace. This is why club I suggest has taken professional advice and have said the singing section is to be seated. However if the HF are the singing section will they remain seated? Will club enforce it? Authorities will wait and see
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| turbohorsebox Coulsdon 15 Oct 18 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Spitfire
With well over 200 pages on the HF and this thread combined one thing strikes me as missing. No comment from the HF, no one seeming to purport to be part of it. Their entire dealings seem under the radar and secretive, yet they have the ear of the club / SP because of singing and waving flags at home games (which I do think adds to atmosphere) I say home games as I rarely see them away from home and I've only missed one away game in 3 seasons. Many of the Block E people I know have been to many more away games as well as having their home ST's. The HF's importance, impact and fanaticism seems to be massively overstated. There appears to me no reason why they couldn't continue in block B adding to their membership as seats in that section became available. They chose not to come as a group, nobody stopped them. To then be allowed back next season, in their own bigger section, to the detriment of 400 of the most loyal and long serving supporters is scandalous. Steve Parish you should hang your head in shame. They got the hump because their sole reason for being there (to goad and wind up the opposition fans, not to support the club) was taken away when the away fans were moved to the other end of the Arthur to avoid higher policing costs. No point in staying to just bang a drum and sing a bit.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Oct 18 3.55pm |
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Originally posted by turbohorsebox
They got the hump because their sole reason for being there (to goad and wind up the opposition fans, not to support the club) was taken away when the away fans were moved to the other end of the Arthur to avoid higher policing costs. No point in staying to just bang a drum and sing a bit. THIS, with huge amount of bells on
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| bromleysteve01 Bromley 15 Oct 18 6.25pm |
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Decision on who sits in Block E should be based on loyalty points @500 per season since stand was built based on contribution and yearly commitment and renewals and funds invested to club
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| BuckinghamshireEagle 15 Oct 18 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by Palace in the Blood
You may be right, we’ll see. My experience is that the government moves at the speed of rock erosion on such things. They have asked for additional research to be completed by the end of the year. That will be late. Then they need to consider it - usually a minimum of 6 months. I think it will be August 2019 at the earliest before they are ready to amend legislation to even allow trials, but I hope I’m wrong.
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| Painter Croydon 15 Oct 18 7.46pm |
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If anyone still thinks this HF group are good for Palace, need their heads tested.
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| .TUX. 15 Oct 18 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
If anyone still thinks this HF group are good for Palace, need their heads tested. They are. They appear to have set themselves up as an elitist group, who think they are better than other Palace fans. It doesn't ''appear'' that way to many of us. 99% of the effort that the group have put in for the past 13yrs should be applauded, not continually derided. It obviously does and would that be the same atmosphere that everyone of us has happily wallowed in since our last promotion? Yeah, i thought so. I am surprised Parish has succumbed to their demands, That's because you're not as intelligent as him. it isn't going to end well for anyone in the long term. See above.
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| tinribzzz BROMLEY 15 Oct 18 9.54pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Sense!
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| the.universal 15 Oct 18 10.12pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
We don’t always agree, but i’m totally with you on this one.
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| Aray South London 15 Oct 18 10.33pm |
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I am really torn on this. Selfishly I cant wait for the HF to return as we've become reliant on them kickstarting our singing etc. It has been like a morgue all season. And obviously while no one can prove they help our home performances at least we have a buzzing atmosphere when they are around. But but but...This kinda stinks. It takes a while to build relationships but once formed they do matter. I actually think one of the reasons the Emirates is so dead is because when Arsenal moved from Highbury the chemistry went too. CPFC probably messed up the non-consultation around this idea but does that justify the HF going on strike? They've really not given a clear reason for not continuing. Some wishy washy talk about not moving forward?? So now we have 400 loyal fans displaced and, given how poor the club's administration is, I fear the box office will fail to deliver efficiently the proposed moves. Lets face it will be a very complicated procedure for a competent operation - and ours is not. My view is anyone displaced should have a free ticket for at least one season. And cut price until the new stand is built. And as for the HF - I fear they may have overplayed their hand here. Would be a shame if we became a divided fanbase because of this.
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| PZ Eagle Penzance 15 Oct 18 11.12pm |
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Originally posted by Aray
I am really torn on this. Selfishly I cant wait for the HF to return as we've become reliant on them kickstarting our singing etc. It has been like a morgue all season. And obviously while no one can prove they help our home performances at least we have a buzzing atmosphere when they are around. But but but...This kinda stinks. It takes a while to build relationships but once formed they do matter. I actually think one of the reasons the Emirates is so dead is because when Arsenal moved from Highbury the chemistry went too. CPFC probably messed up the non-consultation around this idea but does that justify the HF going on strike? They've really not given a clear reason for not continuing. Some wishy washy talk about not moving forward?? So now we have 400 loyal fans displaced and, given how poor the club's administration is, I fear the box office will fail to deliver efficiently the proposed moves. Lets face it will be a very complicated procedure for a competent operation - and ours is not. My view is anyone displaced should have a free ticket for at least one season. And cut price until the new stand is built. And as for the HF - I fear they may have overplayed their hand here. Would be a shame if we became a divided fanbase because of this. What do you mean "if we became a divided fanbase because of this? We already are all because the HF didn't get their own way diddums.
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 becky over the moon 16 Oct 18 6.21am |
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I wonder if anyone has actually given any thought as to what happens if this fails to work? By next August, some members of the HF, having been 'disestablished' for nearly a year, may have moved on/moved away and not want to move back. Have they actually made any comment on the Block E development? Have they expressed their pleasure at what the club is doing for them? Have they said that they will be there ??????? When their Block B tickets were made available, there was lots of noise and enthusiasm from people on here about taking them up and getting something started to fill in until they returned. Did it happen? Well, if it did, nobody seems to have noticed! To have a dedicated 'singing section' obviously you have to have people to sing, but more than that, you have to have the structure to generate the singing: as we have seen with the HF - a drum, a 'choirmaster' and a repertoire are the basic essentials to make it work. So if the HF are not back in full force ( plus their 'waiting list' colleagues), where will these singers come from? A few young (and not so young) blokes will not be able to generate anything like the same atmosphere without some organisation and leadership as we have seen- see the comment on the current Block B situation above! I just hope that Steve parish has really done his homework on this, because if the HF are not there in full force (plus extras) and it does fail then not only will our club be a laughing stock for developing a singing section, but a total joke if that section then doesn't actually sing to create a far, far bigger atmosphere than was produced by Block B.
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