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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 03 Jan 19 10.28am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I don't hate Roy Hodgson, I actually back him as Palace's manager and think he's the right man for the job given the circumstances. I've commented previously on how the club is run, and how RH can be one dimensional. He hits his targets and has found his level.

I challenged the believe that he was a successful England manager. He wasn't. He was a disaster for the (as yet) unchallenged facts:

Harry Kane on corners
3 tournament game wins in 11 attempts
Iceland
World Cup 2014


He was unbeaten in all his qualifying games, why don't you loo0k at the records be spouting your nonsense "facts"

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 03 Jan 19 10.52am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Well one thing I do blame RH for is for the number of teams that have had their worst game of the season when playing us . Funny that .

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jan 19 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

Well one thing I do blame RH for is for the number of teams that have had their worst game of the season when playing us . Funny that .

Some have though haven’t they? Last season we were playing teams at the worst time, whereas Brighton were playing teams at the best time. Let’s be honest, Burnley, Leicester and Cardiff whonwe failed to score against were all pretty bad. Chelsea weren’t very good either where our last 10 minute effort wasn’t enough compared to vs Wolves and I wasn’t impressed with Wolves last night either. Sure against Man City we can heap praise on Roy’s tactics and use of the team but in all those others the opposition were poor, of that there’s no doubt. I’d take that all day long apart from that unless we start taking teams on more or looking for a win before 80 minutes we’ll be relying on the opposition being poor or poorer to people win the points, although I suppose that’s the thing. It worked v Wolves and not v Chelsea so that’s 3 points from those 2 and 1.5 points per game, which is how we were sometimes on the right side of these fine margins Roy plays. It worked wonders last season but this season it’s been frustrating, and you cannot deny that last night could easily have been 0-0 or 1-0 to them so he’s setting up to ride the fine margins and hopefully stay up. Music to Parish’ ears if he doesn’t quit if Parish doesn’t provide transfer funds, but very disappointing for fans who go to certain matches or see that the Chelsea match was there for a point plus a push for maybe 3 rather than very little endeavour and maybe a half chance.

It’s not pretty and it can work, but playing for that maybe chance carries risks and frustrates supporters no end to the point they start thinking is it worth being there if you can watch this kind of football and every game in your armchair.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jan 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER


He was unbeaten in all his qualifying games, why don't you loo0k at the records be spouting your nonsense "facts"

We are a 2nd tier nation now (we were a 1st) so we’ll often be the 2nd best team out of 4 in the group in tournaments. Therefore 3 tournament wins out of 11 is terrible and given we’re the best or 2nd best in bigger qualifying groups I expect us to have a good qualifying record. It’s not something to wear as a badge of honour. We can beat the lines of Leichtenstein and Andorra twice.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jan 19 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I wouldn’t be surprised if Parish has offended Roy an extension. Whether Roy wants it is another matter. Parish probably has no idea who our next manager shouldvor could be and probably neither do the ex players by his side.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I wouldn’t be surprised if Parish has offended Roy an extension. Whether Roy wants it is another matter. Parish probably has no idea who our next manager shouldvor could be and probably neither do the ex players by his side.

Probably several other people as well

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Jan 19 8.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Probably several other people as well

Gotta love predictive text sometimes.

 


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Originally posted by Tickled pink

The corner taking thing was a bit silly, but there's a lot to say about camaraderie and this helped Iceland hugely as it did with Southgate's campaign.

What helped Southgate's campaign was meagre opposition and a ridiculous media campaign.

Just a reminder that England lost twice to Belgium, once to Croatia, overcame Colombia on penalties and scored an extra time victory over Tunisia. It really was pretty unimpressive

 

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Originally posted by pssguy

What helped Southgate's campaign was meagre opposition and a ridiculous media campaign.

Just a reminder that England lost twice to Belgium, once to Croatia, overcame Colombia on penalties and scored an extra time victory over Tunisia. It really was pretty unimpressive

Yes I agree, but we certainly would not of been one game away from a final with any of our previous setups.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 03 Jan 19 10.33pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Neither if they manage to bring in a quality striker this window. And a good no.10 would be nice, or even Moses.

 

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Some have though haven’t they? Last season we were playing teams at the worst time, whereas Brighton were playing teams at the best time. Let’s be honest, Burnley, Leicester and Cardiff whonwe failed to score against were all pretty bad. Chelsea weren’t very good either where our last 10 minute effort wasn’t enough compared to vs Wolves and I wasn’t impressed with Wolves last night either. Sure against Man City we can heap praise on Roy’s tactics and use of the team but in all those others the opposition were poor, of that there’s no doubt. I’d take that all day long apart from that unless we start taking teams on more or looking for a win before 80 minutes we’ll be relying on the opposition being poor or poorer to people win the points, although I suppose that’s the thing. It worked v Wolves and not v Chelsea so that’s 3 points from those 2 and 1.5 points per game, which is how we were sometimes on the right side of these fine margins Roy plays. It worked wonders last season but this season it’s been frustrating, and you cannot deny that last night could easily have been 0-0 or 1-0 to them so he’s setting up to ride the fine margins and hopefully stay up. Music to Parish’ ears if he doesn’t quit if Parish doesn’t provide transfer funds, but very disappointing for fans who go to certain matches or see that the Chelsea match was there for a point plus a push for maybe 3 rather than very little endeavour and maybe a half chance.

It’s not pretty and it can work, but playing for that maybe chance carries risks and frustrates supporters no end to the point they start thinking is it worth being there if you can watch this kind of football and every game in your armchair.

We’ve also played some good attacking stuff in some games and not been fully rewarded. Arsenal and spurs at home and Utd away could have easily yielded more points had we had a bit of luck or indeed a goal scorer. We certainly Didn’t setup just to stifle the opposition in those games and I wouldn’t say it was dull or boring. It’s impossible to play well every week, against Chelsea we had an off day and probably suffered from having played against a physical Cardiff side and chasing the ball continuously against a City team that move the ball so quickly.

The criticism from some quarters that the football is dull and boring seems a bit harsh to me. Under Roy we’ve played some of the best football I have ever seen at Selhurst. The end of last season in particular where some of the stuff we played was a delight.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 04 Jan 19 4.45am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Roy is the perfect yes man for Parish. At least for the next year or so we will have limited funds - what new manager would walk into that, having to utilize an inherited squad which hasn't really found its stride.

I see Roy staying with us until a big player will be sold, to create some cash flow and then a new bloke will be tempted to come in with 70-90 mil to spend.

 


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