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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 20 Dec 18 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

I'm more than happy to be judged on what I say. To bring up someone mentioned in another thread, I'd say that my political outlook is similar to a Joe Rogan libertarian type. Where you got the idea that I also by default agree with everything he does in his personal life I'm not sure.

That's fine, because for every repeat of what I consider a mischaracterisation of my views you will receive the same in return.

Originally posted by Tawny


If you lumber around calling people with fairly pedestrian views 'far left' or infer that specific individuals here almost certainly live in white areas due to a desire to be around whites without any idea of their personal circumstance I'm not sure you get a free pass.

I walked back the idea that I was specifically accusing this individual. I made it specifically about the holistic statistics.....so again, that's disingenerous.

Anyone I've called far left who objected I've asked for where they differed in opinions from them. I've either in the case of one individual not received a reply or in the case of Maple I stopped doing it purely on account of how much it seemed to annoy him.

I have no desire to deliberately mischaracterise an individual as you do.

Originally posted by Tawny


That would essentially be like me stating that you're far right on account of your racial IQ immigration thoughts, your positives attitudes towards groups acknowledged to attract violent far right individuals like the Proud Boys or because of your initial attitude towards this neo nazi couple who call their baby adolf, pose in front of a swaztika and state that they would kill a mixed raise child. You're the one that initially felt anger, implied danger and suggested indocrination on this child being removed from this environment, rather than remaining in it. Your reaction to this couple was at best very muted concern. When I pushed that point you reitterated it, and added that social services should get involved, which is something I agree with.

As I stated, the only reason you feel these people are far left, if because of your own political drift and if you're going to take that attitude with others, you certainly don't hold back on providing views that suggest you're more of a political outlier in society than they will ever be.


Here you go again. You completely mischaracterise my attitude towards this couple and I'm angry.

My commentary on IQ is factual. My thoughts as to what should be done about it is open to debate.

Yes I support the Proud Boys. This does not mean I condone everything they do. Groups ban individuals from within their ranks all the time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Dec 2018 1.28pm)

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The toppermost of the poppermost 20 Dec 18 1.40pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

It would appear so, but I'm not Gussett and I've never even been carded, so that's something right? I'm more curious at to who steve is. It pains me to say it, but he's far more interesting than me.

Steve is quite entertaining. I'll be sorry when he's gone.

 


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Tawny Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 2.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I walked back the idea that I was specifically accusing this individual. I made it specifically about the holistic statistics.....so again, that's disingenerous.

After initially calling his claims that where he lives isn't some kind of pressing desire to be around whites 'talking nonsense', even your walkback of that stated that every single person involved in white flight would make the exact same denial. That's a more factual take on what was said.

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Here you go again. You completely mischaracterise my attitude towards this couple and I'm angry.

My commentary on IQ is factual. My thoughts as to what should be done about it is open to debate.

Yes I support the Proud Boys. This does not mean I condone everything they do. Groups ban individuals from within their ranks all the time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Dec 2018 1.28pm)

You essentially walked back what you initially said about the couple too. You should take up moonwalking. You initially appeared far more angry about government intervention with this couple than you are known to be with far more beneign couples raising children. Maybe I'm 'angry' about that? That is not particularly palatable or reasonable.

As for the IQ points, If you muse about giving non Europeans coming into the country an IQ test as something you might favour, then expect people to have a view on that.

And as for the Proud Boys, one of their tenets involves violence and they are acknowledged by the FBI to have violent right far right elements.

My point is, if you're going to be perpetually outraged about ANTIFA and the like, then why exactly would you be, if you're a big fan of comparable groups on the other side of the political spectrum. I can happily say that both of these groups are something we could do without, because their very nature attracts fringe types wishing to engage in violence.


 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Dec 18 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

It would appear so, but I'm not Gussett and I've never even been carded, so that's something right? I'm more curious at to who steve is. It pains me to say it, but he's far more interesting than me.

I've a good idea who you are and if I'm right it's true that you haven't been banned from this site.

I do know who Steve is and he's not Gussett and I don't think that he was one of his cronies either

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Dec 18 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've a good idea who you are and if I'm right it's true that you haven't been banned from this site.

I do know who Steve is and he's not Gussett and I don't think that he was one of his cronies either

Looks like I lost that bet with Stirling then.

It's good for the soul to be wrong occasionally and my soul is long overdue for a top up.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 20 Dec 18 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I've a good idea who you are and if I'm right it's true that you haven't been banned from this site.

I do know who Steve is and he's not Gussett and I don't think that he was one of his cronies either

Well WordUp was, in my view anyway, a Gusset crony and left with him. He wrote a couple of DMs to me complaining about the site's actions and criticising me arguing that I should also leave Hol.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 2.37pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well WordUp was, in my view anyway, a Gusset crony and left with him. He wrote a couple of DMs to me complaining about the site's actions and criticising me arguing that I should also leave Hol.

Are you saying that Gusset wrote a couple of DMs to you or that I did? If you're suggesting the latter then that is certainly something that never happened.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 20 Dec 18 2.38pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Steve is quite entertaining. I'll be sorry when he's gone.

Indeed, he appears to know an awful lot about Hungary.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 20 Dec 18 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

You essentially walked back what you initially said about the couple too. You should take up moonwalking. You initially appeared far more angry about government intervention with this couple than you are known to be with far more beneign couples raising children. Maybe I'm 'angry' about that? That is not particularly palatable or reasonable.

Yes, you see I'll take account of what someone says to me and if I feel I should alter or 'walk back' something I'm man enough to do it.

'Appeared'....there's mystic meg Tawny again.

I was concerned about the child of this couple. I certainly think the state have been heavy handed and potentially damaged this child emotionally in very important formative years where a child needs its father and mother.

This couple had been jailed for six and five years. I'll repeat that....six and five years for no physical offence....For beliefs based upon appalling statements.

I agreed from the start that this couple both needed intervention with their child from social workers and also needed community service until they showed geniune remorse for this incitement to violence.

I had no knowledge of a threat to a child.....You repeated this connection several times when I had made no comment on it and professed no knowledge of it. It demonstrates how disingenuous you are. A commonality you share with WordUp, which is why, rightly or wrongly, I made that identification.

I have no affinity with people who celebrate Hitler. You made that statement and conflated it with my views in other areas.

You deserve criticism and should be walking back what you said.....angry are you? I'm fecking furious.


Originally posted by Tawny

As for the IQ points, If you muse about giving non Europeans coming into the country an IQ test as something you might favour, then expect people to have a view on that.

I recognise it's a controversial view and I refined it within the consequential discussion. I have no issues with sensible debate on it. You bought it up seemingly in support of your alt right 'obsession', I didn't.

Originally posted by Tawny

And as for the Proud Boys, one of their tenets involves violence and they are acknowledged by the FBI to have violent right far right elements.

My point is, if you're going to be perpetually outraged about ANTIFA and the like, then why exactly would you be, if you're a big fan of comparable groups on the other side of the political spectrum. I can happily say that both of these groups are something we could do without, because their very nature attracts fringe types wishing to engage in violence.

Again, you bought up the Proud Boys in this discussion, not me.

I haven't mentioned Antifa for quite a while actually. They are themselves an official domestic terrorist group of course....As far as I'm aware the Proud Boys aren't an official domestic terrorist group.

As far as I know, the only incidents where the Proud Boys have deliberately engaged in violence has been in situations where Antifa are looking to attack events that they disapprove of.

Outside of that I support them for what they were created for, a group celebrating 'western chauvinism'. They are a pushback against radical feminism and those pushing 'toxic masculinity'.

They don't support those looking to attack innocent people causing nobody any harm and either do I.

Still, because you are disingenuous and want to play mystic meg with no walking back, you make those connections because that's clearly your MO.


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 20 Dec 18 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

Are you saying that Gusset wrote a couple of DMs to you or that I did? If you're suggesting the latter then that is certainly something that never happened.

Nope, I have that wrong, I was referring to legaleagle about the DMs.

I'll ask again, are you the former poster known as WordUp?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Dec 18 3.02pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well WordUp was, in my view anyway, a Gusset crony and left with him. He wrote a couple of DMs to me complaining about the site's actions and criticising me arguing that I should also leave Hol.

He messaged me several times whining on about freedom of speech, suggesting that I was somehow responsible for Gusset's ban and the fact that the mods had removed some of his posts. He was quitting HOL as a result.

The dude was a bit bonkers. He might even have been a glove puppet.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 20 Dec 18 3.06pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


The dude was a bit bonkers. He might even have been a glove puppet.

Is that like a sock puppet, but one who hasn't got a leg to stand on?

 

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