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steve1984 23 Jan 19 9.59am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


All these communists living in nice areas, slagging off their own country...

Living abroad provides some valuable perspective enabling a more insightful and well rounded appraisal of one's own country.

A country imho is nothing much more than the people who live in it, shape it and determine its values.

I note that you're often very quick to criticise the people who live here who have shaped our country in a way that you don't like.

In short the right to be critical is fundamental to a healthy society irrespective of whether or not it comes from within or without your nation state. I've listened intently to your criticism and have been trying to take it on board.

Don't you think you could do the same? You plank.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 23 Jan 19 10.34am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Makes you wonder, why he keeps on posting about Brexit and is so consumed by it, as it doesn’t even effect him. Along with his general anti British stance.

Having seen his relentless anti-brexit posts on that particular thread I concur with you.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Jan 19 10.43am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Living abroad provides some valuable perspective enabling a more insightful and well rounded appraisal of one's own country.

A country imho is nothing much more than the people who live in it, shape it and determine its values.

I note that you're often very quick to criticise the people who live here who have shaped our country in a way that you don't like.

In short the right to be critical is fundamental to a healthy society irrespective of whether or not it comes from within or without your nation state. I've listened intently to your criticism and have been trying to take it on board.

Don't you think you could do the same? You plank.

I've always listened to the constructive stuff from people who seem sensible. You listen, you consider it and you modify or reject it.....You put out your view and the sensible people do the same.

Sometimes you hear people complaining on Hol that no one's views are ever changed but while I think it's unrealistic to expect people to have 'road to Damascus' conversions I've definitely had my opinions modified in certain areas down the years.

Mind you I think I've become more socially conservative in some areas... since I started on Hol.....but that's not Hol's influence but instead it's been a factor of learning about what how well meaning policies can go badly holistically and of course future trends.

But I'll always have that core of liberalism....Even though I've learnt to be suspicious of the societies unfetted liberalism ends up creating.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2019 10.47am)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 19 10.53am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Makes you wonder, why he keeps on posting about Brexit and is so consumed by it, as it doesn’t even effect him. Along with his general anti British stance.

It affects the whole EU, as many Brexit politicians like to remind us. That is why the EU will fold and buckle to the UK's demands.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

In my travels I found Malaysian Borneo overall the nicest place to live. Great people, scenary, food and weather.

It is, however, part of a Muslim country albeit Sabah and Sarawak are not Muslim states. So if your views reflect others on here that may concern you.

I found the balance of Chinese, Malays and indigenous people especially interesting.

I have also really enjoyed working and living in Sri Lanka for similar reasons, despite having my room at the Intercontinental blown up.

Most European countries are nice, Germany probably a stand-out followed by the Czech Republic. I am extremely partial to Turkey, especially Istanbul where the people are mostly pretty cosmopolitan and very very bright.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Jan 19 11.35am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Don't you think you could do the same? You plank.

I have rescinded your previous yellow but next time you call someone a plank it will be a red card.

Normally at this juncture I suggest to people that can't post without insulting others that they may be happier at the other Palace forum but as I believe that you have been banned from there I won't

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 19 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I have rescinded your previous yellow but next time you call someone a plank it will be a red card.

Normally at this juncture I suggest to people that can't post without insulting others that they may be happier at the other Palace forum but as I believe that you have been banned from there I won't

Is it OK to say Stirling posts in a wooden style?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 23 Jan 19 12.59pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


All these communists living in nice areas, slagging off their own country and talking about fleeing.....but it's never about them fleeing.

God forbid the proletariat unshackle himself from EU driven elitist oppression.

Let's decide whether to flee to Romania where the health budget runs out by April the second and a banker earns £500 a month, or to Poland where abortion is still illegal and ginger folk considered the devil, both bastions of the EU community, whilst scoffing our cheese and biscuits and £7.99 bottle of oddbins plonk.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Jan 19 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Is it OK to say Stirling posts in a wooden style?


I have to say that's amusing, from someone called Maple.

I think me and Stevie have waffled enough for him to call me a plank if he wants to.....he's alright in my book.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2019 1.06pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 19 1.07pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I have to say that's amusing, from someone called Maple.

I think me and Stevie have waffled enough for him to call me a plank if he wants to.....he's alright in my book.

Thank you, I try to amuse.

I tend to think of myself as MDF. You know, medium density with a Maple overlay.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 23 Jan 19 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you, I try to amuse.

I tend to think of myself as MDF. You know, medium density with a Maple overlay.

I think if I were to be named after a tree....I'd want Oak.....though I think the Maple leaf is in the Canadian flag isn't it?....though some in Canada seem to be trying to divorce themselves from any connections to past ideas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Jan 2019 1.19pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jan 19 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

God forbid the proletariat unshackle himself from EU driven elitist oppression.

Let's decide whether to flee to Romania where the health budget runs out by April the second and a banker earns £500 a month, or to Poland where abortion is still illegal and ginger folk considered the devil, both bastions of the EU community, whilst scoffing our cheese and biscuits and £7.99 bottle of oddbins plonk.

Ah Romania. One of only two countries I truly disliked when I worked there. Changed a heck of a lot since those days, when I first worked there they hadn't filled in the bullet holes from getting rid of the Ceaucescu family and all the light bulbs were 20 Watt.

Not what I would call a standard EU country. Still has some way to go and in reality probably wasn't ready to join the EU.

The EU has 512.6m people, Romania 19.6m. Meanwhile Germany has 82.4m and is something of a better comparator. Of course there is variation across countries but to pick on specific countries and specific aspects of those countries is merely fudging the issue. Perhaps you think the UK is perfect in every way. As an example, the abortion laws in Northern Ireland.

I don't want to 'flee' anywhere. I sure as hell do want to keep the ability to move and work freely within countries that, in the main, are relatively similar to my own.

 

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